I disagree completely. Helldorado is a beefy, heavy, stiff, and really burly ski because it has a metal-laminate sandwich construction. I demoed the Helldorado and Patron last spring and the Helldorado absolutely crushed the re-frozen chunks and choppy spring conditions. Patron did very well for a non-metal ski but I digress. The main difference between the Helldorado and Bodacious is that the Helldo has a very short turn radius and tail rocker, making it much more playful and easy to turn, but at the expense of some high-speed straightlining stability. Helldo has long tip and tail rocker but the tips to not rise much so there isn't much flop at speed.