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So far, so good.

    My jacket was delivered by UPS just minutes after I had dressed and gotten out of a hot shower. I figured, what better time to try the vapor permeability feature? Still feeling quite warm from the shower I was amazed that I felt no swampiness and was down right comfortable with it on.

    Though I have not taken the jacket on any serious hikes yet, I have packed in on a few long bike rides where it came in handy during a cold and windy snow flurry. The hood is a great feature, and covers all the need places especially in the windy conditions I've thus far faced with this jacket.

    No complaints on the sizing. I ordered a small (I'm 5'6" and 115 lbs without an ounce of fat on me), and it still has room enough for a base layer of silk, my light merino smartwool hoodie, and a wool bike jersey.

    This summer, I'll be taking this jacket with me into the Sangre de Cristo Mountains of Colorado for a 10-day backpacking trip and do so without any worry that should we get a seasonal storm, this jacket will keep me dry and not-sweaty.

    Sizing is off

      I liked the looks of the jacket and it is super light weight, but after reading the reviews about it's fit I got a Medium and it was WAY too small. My other jackets (both technical shells and soft shells) are all smalls or mediums, so was disappointed in the sizing, especially around the waist. They didn't have a large, so I had to return for a refund.

      Size Up

        The jacket would have been an ok fit if I wasn't going to layer under it. However, I was planning on using this for a ski shell. I am 6'2 235", I wear a 46L jacket. The XL was just too tight across the shoulders and back if i reached forward like i would when polling along on skis. I put it on with a smartwool baselayer, smartwool mid weight, and an R2 fleece. I was buying it for a cold weather shell as much of for wet weather.

        To put the fit in perspective, I have a BC shift element in an XL (which fits similar to a TNF Apex) that fits well with the layers. The Stoic eVent is a good deal more slim cut than the shift, length was fine.

        The only complaints I have is sizing, I liked the slim fit otherwise. The jacket was light weight yet definitely tough enough for skiing in the woods. I liked the cayenne color. I had to return it, but if I could have gotten a XXL in the blue or the Cayenne I'd have been stoked.

        Funky fit, otherwise solid

          Was looking at this on a great sale price and tried it but am disappointed to say the fit was the reason it needed to be returned. This jacket is very narrow in the waist and hem. It's made for someone shaped like a "V". I am an atheltic 26 y.o. and medium in patagonia, arcteryx fits me perfectly but not this one so be careful. Otherwise, the jacket looks great, e-vent awesome, reinforced shoulders, light weight, pockets a bit low for technical athletes that will wear a hip belt, but best deal out there for the price if it fits you.

          First looks and comparison

            I am 5'8", 170lb, and have a 40" chest. I bought this in Cayenne Medium. I should have bought a L (even though I never wear L in MHW or Arc'teryx).

            My review compares this against previous hard shell jackets I have owned or tried on: Montane Super-fly, MHW Xenon, Arc'teryx Beta AR, Arc'teryx Alpha SV, and Millet Axon Pro.

            MATERIAL: This uses the highly acclaimed eVent. Although I did not do field testing with this jacket, just sitting in my room at 26-28C it didn't feel too hot. This is to compare against Gore-Tex jackets in general. However, I want to state that the real test is in the field. Also the purpose of eVent and GTX are different.

            There are two types of face fabrics in this jacket. The shoulders are made of a burlier/tightly-woven material similar, albeit is still thin. The torso and the entire arm is made of a thinner face fabric which is the square-grid rip-stop nylon material. The face fabric is pretty thin and am sure it will go through a lot of wear and tear if you have abrasive materials against it (ie - a backpack strap that isn't made of soft materials).

            Overall, the material is THIN which will aid in the breathability. That's probably why people are claiming it's much more breathable than other jackets. Being thin means there is less resistance for vapor/moisture to diffuse across.

            DESIGN: Jacket contains two hand pockets at the bottom. As many have mentioned, this pocket is useless if you wear a backpack waist strap. I tried it on with my backpack and could not access the pocket at all. I know some people don't like to have chest pockets. So I think an alternative for their future designs is to make the opening for the hand pocket about 3" higher so that you can at least access it from the top. Good depth for those two hand pockets otherwise. You can fit your whole hand plus more.

            FIT: This jacket is meant for someone who has a REALLY athletic body. All dimensions are probably 1" smaller than other jackets. For me, the chest was acceptable and I could layer a 200-weight fleece. However, the WAIST is TIGHT. My waist is 32-33" and even with all the cinches loosened, the waist of this jacket was WAY too tight. I don't think you could layer a fleece underneath the jacket just based on the waist. Be warned.

            Arms are NOT articulated. It's just straight cut. You'll notice a huge difference compared to the other jackets I am comparing against. If you don't intend on using your arms very much, then maybe it's not a concern for you. But if you do move your arms a lot, you'll appreciate articulated arms a lot more. The material won't touch your skin as much giving you a feeling of freedom. It REALLY does make a difference. However, the intention of this jacket is not for climbers but mainly for skiers.

            Also, the torso length is short. It only goes down 1" lower than my belt.

            Zippers: All of them are standard YKK water-resistant zippers. Nothing fancy.

            Hood: This hood is as simple as you can get. I think it only had side adjusters and NOT the volume adjuster cinches that most jackets have on the back of the hood. The side adjusters are pretty plain/cheap and aren't as easy to operate as some other upper end jackets such as the Arc'teryx Alpha SV ones. The upper end jackets you can easily adjust by just pulling the chord where as this one, you have to play around with it more. As I mentioned, I don't think it has volume adjusters so it probably won't fit as well on your head as other jackets.

            Summary: If you're using this for light purpose activities or don't intend on rubbing this against a tree or getting into a brawl with a bear, this jacket is for you. It packs lightly and you won't notice it at the bottom of your backpack. It's also probably great for breatability because it is so thin.

            For high-output activities that require you to get into a fight with a bear and rub against tress, this is not for you.

            Key points: PROBABLY very breathable because the material is so thin. The waist is TIGHTTTTT! Shoulders are burlier. Hood is simple. Length is slightly shorter than other jackets.

            3/5 - Comparing to other jackets I've tried this one is near the bottom.

            If this review helps, give me the thumbs up!

            Good to hear about your intensive testing by sitting inside at 26-28 degrees C. and it not being too hot.

            Gore-Tex and eVent ARE made for precisely the same purpose, BTW - to be breathable and waterproof. eVent is far, far more breathable though. This is not breathable because it is so thin, it is so breathable because it is eVent and not Gore-Tex.

            the review specifically states FIRST IMPRESSIONS...I didn't claim that it would be an intensive test. I stated that the real test is in the field.

            I don't understand how you could be mistaken for what I said when I made it so clear.

            Great Jacket - Bad Sizing

              Let me start by saying that the only reason that I did not give this jacket 5 stars is because of the sizing issues. I runs way small order a size up. If you don't believe me read the reviews below.

              Sizing aside this jacket is awesome. I got it last season and took it from -4 in NY to 40 in Utah and it performed great under all conditions. It really vents well when you start to heat up working to keep you dry and comfortable. I have also worn it in the rain and it sheds water like my lab's coat of fur. BUT don't get fooled by the light weight this jacket will hold up i.e. random branches in the trees did not cause any tears.

              Lastly, it is a little pricey but worth the investment.

              Great

                It is a great light weight high performing jacket. You can really feel it move the moisture away better than any thing I have ever used. Pretty much identical to the Westcomb Specter LT Hooded jacket, they are probably made in the same factory in Canada. Keeps water out like it is supposed to. Only complaint is that it take a bit to much concentration to get it to zip... Other than that Amazing jacket.

                Amazing

                  This is probably one of the best peices of equipment I own. It is very lightweight and very breatheable, it feels like nothing while I'm wearing it! I got a medium in tahoe (I'm 5'9 145 lb athletic and it fits perfectly) although the actual color is lighter than the one shown. It is nice though cause it brightens up your day if it's rainy and dull! It syncs up nicely with my backcountry siphon, which is also a medium, but if you want more room, I'd go for a size up in the Stoic... I wore this in a torrential downpour on the AT and this thing kept me as dry as a bone, it was really cool to see the water bead off the jacket like nothing else. The eVent fabric is also another wonder of the world; it kept me comfortable in 70 (maybe 80?) degree humid weather, or atleast as comfortable as you'd expect to be in a longsleeve. It obviously doesn't breathe like you're not wearing anything but it WILL move the sweat off of you and through the jacket. Much better than any gore-tex or anything else on the market!

                  Me and my Stoic E-vent on the top of Mt. Temple

                  I bought this jacket about 2 months ago. Seeing as its summer it has been in my closet never worn for until now. I finally got to use it climbing Mt. Temple. It was a summer day down at the base... the summit was a different story. We hit snow and harsh wind on the way up and the jacket held up. I was wearing a Shift Welder underneath which fit perfectly. I have an XL Stoic and a Lg Shift Welder at 6"4. Hope this helps.

                  Me and my Stoic E-vent on the top of Mt. Temple

                  Love this shell

                    I bought this as a (yikes) third shell in my lineup. I have a Arc'teryx Sidewinder SV(burly winter shell) and TNF Triumph (UL 3-season shell). I bought this jacket for 3 reasons: 1) eVent 2) weight 3) minimal design.

                    The eVent has lived up to the hype I've seen and heard about it. I really think it is the best waterproofing option available. Breaths better than the Go-tex and any PU coating. I also prefer a waterproof fabric over PU coatings which wear off too easily.

                    The weight is also great. Its not the lightest, but for its weight its the burliest jacket I've seen (MH Cohesion, TNF Venture). I'm happy enough using it on backpacking trips, through the shoulder seasons, and into winter (unless its going to be super icy, where bust out the Sidewinder). It works well when you slap an insulating layer over it at a rest, then rip it off to keep booting up.

                    The minimal design is good, two hand pockets, one chest pocket, simple velcro on the cuff. Although minimal, BC put a fleece panel on the back of the neck, usually a high wear and break down area. Also a great, trim athletic cut doesn't leave any swimming to be had.

                    My only beef with the jacket is that the hand pockets run in the area of my pack hipbelt. They aren't completely covered, but not exactly accessible. Not an issue as I don't really use those pockets unless I'm using the jacket around town.

                    eVent? Rox!

                      Okay, first-up, I don't have this jacket. That said, it's eVent®, which makes it lighter and more breatheable than any other non-eVent® jacket in its class. Those of you who do not own gear made of or with eVent® fabrics are missing out: waterproof, windproof and breathes incredibly. I don't understand how it works, but I don't care. It's awesome.

                      Like a Glove

                        Just got my Stoic yesterday. Haven't got to use it yet, but I'll comment on the fit. I am 5'-8" 160 lbs. with an athletic build. Smaller waist (31"), wider shoulders, but not huge. I usually wear a small in most things. A North Face size small fits me perfectly, not too tight, not too loose. I ordered 2 jackets, 1 small and 1 medium. I pulled the 1st jacket out of the box and said, "Hmmm, this must be the small." I looked at the tag and saw it was the medium. I tried it on. Ooooooh, it was wicked sweet! The fit was as close to perfect as you could be. I can fit a base layer and a 100-weight fleece underneath without restricting my movements or looking like a roasted 'mallow. With just a t-shirt on, it looked great too, and wasn't excessively baggy. I hate baggy. Everything gets in the way. The arm length was awesome, not too long or short. As for other peeps mentioning the small neck, I had no problems there either. The fabric is much sturdier than I had anticipated. I would feel comfortable with moderate bushwhacking in this without worry. Got the "Tahoe" color, and it rocks. Hope this helps someone out there. If you are unsure about a size, order both and try them on, then send the one back that doesn't fit. It costs a whole 7 bucks and 1 quick trip to UPS to send it back. I think that's worth it to get the right fit. Cheers.

                        Great deal, cool coat

                          The Stoic is a great deal. I wore the stoic in almost every type of condition last winter and thought it performed well in all. Maybe not as windproof as gore-tex, but close. The e-vent breaths super well on those warmer days and keeps 100% of moisture out on wet ones.

                          It is cut slim - I typically wear a size small, but went with a medium on this coat and do not regret it. It is a slim fit for sure. My only complaint would be the design of the neck ring/hood. It is really tight around the lower neck, so it is very difficult to stuff a gator down there without feeling suffocated. There is also a pinch point on the main zipper where the neck/hood meets the body of the coat. It is difficult to pull the zip past that point and the pinch compromises the water seal. This needs to be redesigned.

                          It's a great coat though; it performs, is good looking and a fine deal. the cayenne is the best color too.

                          Don't let the light weight fool you.

                            The Stoic will match heavier "garbage-bag-tex" materials for weatherproofness, but outperforms those same jackets when it comes to weight and breathability. Not enough people buy a shell for the material, and focus too much on looks and the label. Backcountry.com did some thinking when they designed the Stoic, and for a shell weighing in at only 14oz, managed an impressive, functional jacket- but without bells and whistles. If you are choosing an activity where you must carry your shell at points (warmer backcountry days, overnight trips, backpacking, etc) the Stoic is a perfect choice. Buy it one size larger unless you are looking for a strictly summer, snug fit. I'm 6'2 190 and a large fits but is too small with heavy fleece underneath. Also, my climbing helmet fits under the hood- but just.

                            Light and functional

                              Tested this great new jacket while backcountry skiing in Big Cottonwood Cyn. It was a warmer day so I went with my merino wool base layer and this STOIC jacket. Perfect combo, I did not overheat as it breathes nicely but when a little wind hit on the ridge it kept me comfortable. Looking forward to using this jacket for mtn biking (rainy or colder days), trail running, or just hiking in the mtns. Very functional piece of gear that will for sure make you happy! Go for it! You will keep this item for years and use it all the time. Peace.

                              Great all around jacket

                                I'd say that the Backcountry Stoic jacket is one of the best backcountry brand products. The Stoic breathes well and is waterproof. I just layer under it to varying degrees and can use this jacket in all conditions. If it's super cold (ie below zero), I just pull my Montbell ultralight down parka out of my pack and throw that on underneath (get one of those too -- an amazing light weight down jacket -- I always have one in the bottom of my pack. Never even realize it's there ... until it suddenly comes in very handy!). If it's warmer I may just wear a merino baselayer underneath the Stoic, or if it's in between I go with a merino tee, a backcountry prime power stretch top, and maybe even a marmot dryclime windshirt. If you have all these things, you are good for any and all conditions... by the way, the chest pocket on the stoic is great for your phone or digital camera.

                                is it good for the winter to keep you...

                                is it good for the winter to keep you warm?

                                Is this jacket coming back in stock in...

                                Is this jacket coming back in stock in size xl or xxl(if upsizing one) and color blue anytime in january?

                                Backcountry.com is sexist... why's the...

                                Backcountry.com is sexist... why's the male version always more expensive? :P

                                So is eVent more similar to Goretex Pro...

                                So is eVent more similar to Goretex Pro or Paclite? I'm just curious about the thickness and feel of the fabric.

                                Best Answer

                                eVent is more similar to Goretex Pro. I've tried a couple of Paclite items and they are definitely thinner and have a lighter feel than eVent.

                                To your benefit, I grabbed three items that I have (3L eVent, 3L Goretex Pro, and 2L Goretex Performance) and did a side-by-side evaluation. My conclusion was 3L eVent feels like a hybrid of the two Goretex fabrics in thickness and feel. Hope that helps and makes sense.

                                Are they going to restock their supply?...

                                Are they going to restock their supply? Been waiting months to grab a L rapids to no avail. Any info would be great, thanks.

                                Can anyone verify the weight of the Medium...

                                Can anyone verify the weight of the Medium size jacket?

                                Right now I'm trying to decide between this and the Westcomb Specter LT hooded jacket, mainly for ultralight backpacking, though it will get worn around town in the rain too.

                                cheers,

                                -- michael

                                Unanswered Question

                                Anyone else have small tears and/or fabric...

                                Anyone else have small tears and/or fabric wear on the lighter weight fabric portions of the jacket? Specifically, on the front waist area near the pockets???

                                Love the looks of this shell as a backcountry...

                                Love the looks of this shell as a backcountry ski jacket, although I'm having some issues deciding the size for me, I'm 6'0 155 lbs. 31' waist. I'd like to use it skiing so layering is important.

                                The fit of BC stuff is very athletic cut/fitted. If a medium in other brands tends to "just fit right" I would consider sizing up, esp. since you are concerned about layers. I am 6'4" 36 waist and the XL works great for me... If that is of any help for reference. If all else fails order 2 and send one back. But bottom line i would say get a large.

                                Jacket seems to be similar to the Westcomb...

                                Jacket seems to be similar to the Westcomb Cruiser. I assume they are made in the same building. Both made in Canada, same materials (300 fabric lower and 560 upper body). Cayenne color is the same as the Westcomb redrock color (despite the jacket colors in Backcountry's photos). The only difference I see is the Westcomb's version has the 560 fabric come down farther on the arms. Also the Westcomb has pit zips and pocket placements.

                                I am 5'8", 32 waist, 165lbs, and want to...

                                I am 5'8", 32 waist, 165lbs, and want to layer with it. I typically wear a medium . Should I size up to a large or stick with a medium?

                                How has the jacket held up skiing trees...

                                How has the jacket held up skiing trees or riding lifts during the winter? Seems like the main material is rather thin, similar to a gore tex pac lite material.

                                The event shell is more durable, and more substantial than a goretex pac lite material. breathes better and more comfortable too. this event material is three layer, and a durable face fabric and a tricot lining to help absorb and wick moisture through the material. the pac lite is engineered for light weight, and stashable, but they then use the lightest face fabric, no inner lining.

                                if you are out there harassing trees alot, check out the stoic 2.0, with bombshell, as the name suggests, its way durable.

                                the stoic 2.0 jacket with bombshell is made for more fall, winter, spring season, it can handle the backcountry, sidecountry, and inbounds skiing.

                                The  event shell is more durable, and more substantial than a goretex pac lite material. breathes better and more comfortable too. this event material is three layer, and a durable face fabric and a tricot lining to help absorb and wick moisture through the material. the pac lite is engineered for light weight, and stashable, but they then use the lightest face fabric, no inner lining.

if you are out there harassing trees alot, check out the stoic 2.0, with bombshell, as the name suggests, its way durable.

the stoic 2.0 jacket with bombshell is made for more fall, winter, spring season, it can handle the backcountry, sidecountry, and inbounds skiing.

                                So I've been looking into buying this eVent...

                                So I've been looking into buying this eVent shell, mainly because I'm tempted by the material (God knows I don't need another one!). I've owned shells with Gore Paclite, Gore Proshell, and other waterproof/breathable materials in the past, but I'm trying to figure out how to measure how breathable this eVent stuff really is. Can anyone speak as to how it would compare to a garment with, for example, a Windstopper laminate in it? I own the Marmot Superhero softshell, which with a Windstopper laminate bonded to a "softshell" material, has sometimes breathed more like a hardshell than a true softshell. Anyone know how this Stoic eVent Shell would breathe compared to something like that?

                                From the guys I have talked to at gear shops and other places the breathable rating has to be "experienced" to fully understand it, and that the written rating does not give you a good idea of the difference. They said they no longer use goretex anymore and only buy stuff with eVent. They speak of eVent fabric with tones of awe and wonder in their voices. They almost act like the people on the commercials who switch from PCs to MAcs, they say they will never go back to goretex. So that does not really answer your question but I hope it helps..

                                Two more questions: I noticed the women's...

                                Two more questions: I noticed the women's version has a pocket on the sleeve...does the men's have one too, and just isn't pictured? I thought that was a sweet feature--on the women's version anyway.
                                Also, what does color "Cayenne" really look like? In one of the user photos it looks much more red than the orange-ish picture from BC. Thanks.

                                Stoic vs sidewinder...and help on this...

                                Stoic vs sidewinder...and help on this dilemma? How is the fit (I'm 5' 11" and 195lbs) L or XL? main use = fishing trips.

                                I think to properly answer the question some more background is needed (on a boat not really moving vs treking through the woods, spring/summer vs fall/winter, do you get cold easily?, etc), but i'll fire away.

                                I'm 6'0 185-195.

                                I have the SW and BC Stoic 2.0 (non Event but will use it for size comments).
                                The SW is definitely cut bigger and I would go with the large. Room to layer, not to baggy. It has the pit zips to help you vent, breahability is good and the material will probably be a bit thicker/more durable (realtively speaking).

                                The BC is definitely cut a bit more narrow/athletic. Look at the comments here and Stoic 2.0 for cut of the jacket. I order l & xl of the 2.0 and kept the xl. If its just a summer shell with little/no layering, then you can get away w the large, otherwise i would suggest the xl. Event is generally regarded as beiing more breathable.

                                W/out actually having used Event, I would choose it for warmer weather activities. If its more winter/cool weather oriented, I prefer to self regulate w pit zips (which can drop heat quickly) and go with the SW which also has the powder skirt.

                                how much better does this perform than...

                                how much better does this perform than BC's stoic 2.0 shell and shift welder

                                What is the eVent material used in this...

                                What is the eVent material used in this jacket ?
                                300 NR eVent® (ePTFE) ?
                                460 NR eVent® (ePTFE) ?
                                560 NST eVent® (ePTFE) ?
                                And what is the diference in size and breathability between these fabrics ?

                                How does the waterproof rating compare to...

                                How does the waterproof rating compare to gore pro and paclite? (seems obvious breathability on this specific event product rocks). Be great to see material denier rating's given by BC and some explanation on site of the denier ratings (try googling/hard to find good info). This seems to be my 'match all' shell, singletrack mtb/whistler MTB/hiking/ocean fishing/skiing, sometimes our exposure is 8 hrs in serious PNW deluge...will this match my helly or pataguchi SST for H20 proofness?

                                Im assuming youre talking about gore-tex proshell and gore-tex paclite?

                                The difference is the breathability but also the thickness. The paclite is 3 layers consisting of the outer material, gore-tex membrane, then an inside material. Proshell still has those 3 main layers but just more of them.

                                Im sure you can find this information on the gore-tex website if you want the specifics.