these were my first "big" powder ski back in '04, man i loved these skis. they introduced me into the mindset that a big ski is good for everyday use. my one word of wisdom to a buyer is GO BIG OR GO HOME. i made the mistake thinking that i couldn't handle a big ski (i am 5'8" and 140 and went with a 173) so unless you are under 5'5" go with the 183 or bigger.

this is my go to ski, use them at jackson everywhere-all conditions. crud, pow- etc. only advice do not get atomic bindings- way too heavy- ski is really light for backcountry treks and atomic bindings are a deal killer.

got these two months ago. been using them all winter out west and at home in the east and in all snow depths that i have encountered for 3 and a half feet to an inch of packed powder they have been great. as others have said these skis are insanely fast but dont let that scare you away because at all speeds from the cat tracks to about 50 55 mph they are stable with no chattering. Great ski.

The Sugar Daddy in the 183cm is excellent PNW all around ski. Very stable in wet heavy snow. Great in powder and very powerful on the groomed. I couldn't find the speed limit on these. Would be an outstanding backcountry ski due to its light weight. I was surprised with how quick underfoot these skis were, also due to its stable light weight construction. A lot of new skis have come and gone and the Sugar Daddy is still an excellent choice for most expert skiers.

skied it in powder, on groomers, on ice, no speed limit, very light

tails are stiff and unforgiving so if you like to lean back not a ski for u
lean forward and rip

just got e'm last week, went up for some east coast skiin, surprised these handle ice, hardpack, slush, crud anything and everything, will update on how well they do when i get them in some actual powder

have them in 193, no speed limit, faster than my race skis, forget about short quick turns haha, point them down and fly, they are super stable and seriously fast