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Offers you balls-to-the-walls stability and reliability.
When you break out the Atomic Automatic Ski you better button your powder skirt, cinch your gloves down, and whip out your snorkel, because you're in for a hell of a powder session. This big-mountain freeride ski lives to ski fast and hard down big open faces, slash massive pow turns, drop big airs, and woo the crowd at the bottom of competition venues. A solid wood core gives you rock-hard stability at high speeds and a smooth ride, while the Automatic's titanium SPB technology provides you with an extremely responsive ski you can count on when you maneuver down a steep techy section to your next feature.
- Powder rockered profile features a 30% rockered tip, 15% rockered tail, and 55% camber underfoot for increased floatation in pow and ease of turn initiation and edging on hardpack
- Full wood core from tip to tail supplies solid stability on snow, powerful rebound, maximizes ski/snow contact, and filters vibrations for a smooth ride
- Step Down Sidewall Wood Core uses a combination of sidewall ski construction and a wood core to ensure lively performance without jeopardizing the ski's overall flex
- Half-cap construction at the tip and tail area protects the ski from mechanical damage
- Sidewall construction in the binding area improves damping, shock absorption, and edge grip
- Titanium SPB (Sprocket Power Booster) allows the skier's energy to be directly transferred from the binding to the edges for an extremely responsive, smooth ride
- A 117mm waist provides a versatile ski that slashes pow, busts through crud, straightlines, and slices through groomers and mogul fields on the way back to the lift line
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Super Sick Ski
Although I haven't gotten this ski into what it's meant for yet (powder) it's handled really well. I wanted something with more camber than the K2 Obsethed (11-12) and this is exaclty what the doctor ordered. I skied firm-slushy spring conditions at Northstar today on groomed runs only but this ski was very stable yet quick-turning at high speeds down icy groomers and then the same on slushy groomers later on. I'm still a little unsure of my mounting point (+3) because it looks almost center mounted which is not what I wanted due to the fact that I don't ski switch. However, I don't notice any problems or feelings of being too far forward at this position so I guess I can't complain. I was also a little worried that the 193 length would be too long for me at 5'11, 185 lbs., near expert level but I had no trouble whatsoever controlling these fine skis, which brings me to my next point- their lightness ! I have Jester Pros (11-12) mounted on mine and they feel lighter than my 189 Obsetheds at 193 cms ! Anyways, really well designed ski and a lot of fun (I didn't even notice the fact that I pulled a neck muscle previous to use). I just can't wait to get these babies in some pow !!!
The Go To
Really digging this ski. Been on twin tip, twin rocker for years. So the directional automatic was a new ride. This ski is fast, delivering confidence through each turn. Really kicks ass on all conditions, even groomers. While it doesn't float like my hellbents, it does float better than my jj's. But the big thing for me was i could ride the 186 without it feeling short or hanging up in pow. Props to Sage and Dana! This ski is amazing.
Turn Up The Volume
The Atomic Automatics are just what I have been looking for in a ski the you can "Crank Up The Volume" and send it fast and hard down tight big mountain lines. I purchased my Automatics about a month and a half ago. I was looking for a hard charging rockered ski that has great hold at high speed in pow, oatmeal, and Pacific Northwest cement. Let me say that they fit the bill. They also rip on the groomers. An awesome ski for the Northwest.
I mounted +1cm from team because I'm used to a traditional mount but felt that I could use a bit more tail with 15% rocker. I found that the sweet spot for me was directly over the balls of my feet and I could have a taller stance. No need to drive the tips to turn them. Drops feel real good. They are soft enough on landing and slowly come back to form. NO bucking.
Warning though. If you aren't comfortable at high speeds you may want to think twice. I have a racing background and like that they have a playful GS feel to them. But like a GS ski they aren't as responsive at slower speeds.
Bottom line if you like to ski like Sage and Dana get'em.
I'm looking into buying these puppies, I...
I'm looking into buying these puppies, I have two questions:
1. I'm 5'10, advance skier and spend most of my time in the trees, do you these ski's ski short? Will the 179 be to short?
2. I'm having a hard time finding a pair of bindings that will fit these bad boys that won't cost me $3-400.
I'm 5'10 220 lbs. advanced skier, ski mostly at snowbird. I bought the automatics in 193cm, Perfect ski for me, very quick in tight chutes and trees, very predictable and stable in all conditions.
The Salomon STH 12 or 14 would do the job. Also the 186 would be more stable and provide you with a better float, but if you ski tight trees then the 179 will be more maneouverable in the trees.
Tested the 186 today. It was love at...
Tested the 186 today. It was love at first turn. I can se it's out of stock. Will the 193 work well for me. I'm 182 cm and 90 kg. I'm teleskiing by the way.
Ken - if this is going to be your everyday ski, I think you do lose a ton of the quickness of the 186 by going up to the 193. The 193 is a big, softer ski that definately turns slower than the 186. However, if you are looking at the Automatic as your ultra-deep day ski only, I think the 193 might be just the ticket (assuming you don't do a ton of backwards tele turns?). In variable snow and mank, the 193's longer, soft spoon tends to flop about and be a touch less predictable. Unlike some big, stiff skis, I wouldn't call the 193 an ideal tool for crud-busting. I've found that my 186 does fine there and if I need more I reach for a different ski altogether. Hope this helps!
I have not seen anyone discuss mounting these as teles. Anyone put Hammerheads (or similar gonzo bindings) on it? If so, where did you mount? Having ridden similar shapes from RMU and Line, I'm curious how this would feel as a tele.
I just got today the Automatic 2013/2014...
I just got today the Automatic 2013/2014 model.. and I will post a review as soon as I ski them.
Regarding the mounting point.. it is written "Facoty Recommendation" and not "team line". Does anyone knows where is this compared to the team line of the 12/13 model?
I had mounted the Bent Chetler with a Jester at +2,5 from the classic mount (-2,5 from center mount) and I am skiing directional.
I 'll mount the Automatic with the F12 Tour EPF, any suggestion for the mounting point? I am thinking to go "Factory Recommendation" or +1
For directional skiing I went -1.5 and love it to death. Took my recommendation from Blistergearreview.com - read their review for the full story.
I read the Team Line on 2012/2013 186cm Automatics were 102.5cm from the tip, which is the same as where the Factory Recommended line is on my 2013/2014 186cm Automatics. Hope this helps!
Has anyone used these with a Look Pivot...
Has anyone used these with a Look Pivot MFD combo?
Automatic brother provide the low down
Dana Flahr and I give your the low down on the Automatics We are the Automatic Bro's, join us in the brotherhood!
Anybody have experience on this as a touring...
Anybody have experience on this as a touring setup? Thinking it might be a little heavy... thoughts?
I just mounted up a pair with Dynafit bindings about a month ago, and was really pleased, overall with the light binding the ski felt super light to me, compared to my normal binding set up, skiing felt great on em and I was able to ski quite hard on them, and didn't really think twice about the Dynafit binder. If your used to touring with a pow ski set up, they wont seem heavy, but if you haven't been touring on something as wide as the automatic they may seem heavy at first. As soon as you've made one run on em, you will be glad ...
sage cattabriga-alosa where did you mount your Dynafit bindings? Factory recommended, -X.X, or +X.X? Thanks!
Does anyone know how many cm off the center...
Does anyone know how many cm off the center of the skis is the atomic team recommended line in either 186 or 193?
in 186 it is like 10,5 cm. Just look at discussion in blistergearreview.com
Awesome Ski, Must Buy.
- Gender: Male
- Familiarity: I've used it several times
I live in Alaska and finally got to take these new skis out on a powder day. I have the 193's and they ski great (I'm 6'0 , 185).
They turn great in the powder (Alyeska just got 51 inches in 48 hours) and also handle really well at the end of the day when the snow is chopped up. Plus carve great on the groomers. Must Buy.
Just a heads up on dim's...
Just a heads up on dim's...
Have not purchased these yet but had a pair of 93's in my hand and love the not too stiff flex. If were deciding on a pair of skis and saw what Backcountry has posted for dimensions I would pass these by. Here are the correct dimensions:
LENGTH (cm) 179 186 193
TIP WIDTH (mm) 139.5 140.5 141.5
WAIST WIDTH (mm) 117 117 117
TAIL WIDTH (mm) 128.5 129.5 130.5
RADIUS (m) 18 19 20
Hey everybody, I hear great things about...
Hey everybody, I hear great things about these automatics and am thinking about buying, but I'm not too sure about length. I'm about 6' and only around 145 lbs, but I'm an aggressive skier and feel that I can handle a longer ski. Currently on a 184 Mantra and they feel fine, but considering the rocker on the automatics I think the 193 might serve me better than the 186, but still unsure. Thoughts?
Where are you skiing? I have the 186 and I think it is plenty of ski for going fast at 5'11" and 180 lbs., but still feels playful in the trees.
I have been cruising the 185 jj for a...
I have been cruising the 185 jj for a couple of years. I feel it skis short, so i was looking for something with more lenth. My question is, i am 5'11", 165, will the 186 cut the mustard or should i get the 193? I know the tail is barely rockered, so i was thinking this might be enough. I have a soft ski i use for balls out powder days, so the automatic would be for days with mixed conditions.
Been on 185 JJs for the past few years, and agree they ski short. I am 6' 180' and the 186 automatics are easier to turn, and more stable, win, win.
UPDATE: I mounted at +1, after a season on the 186 Autos I wonder if mounting on the line for the 186s would have been better, or if sizing up to the 193s and mounting a bit forward would have been better. Hardly any complaints all around, 186s +1 work excellent for an all-mountain pow ski, amazing in trees. A little turney on big wide open faces though
anthonycardigan where have u mounted yours?
Serious Stoke factor
- Gender: Male
Was lucky enough to get on the snow with these last year during testing. Unbelievably fun, even though we were skiing crud and groomers all day. Well, ski season is here again in Utah, and with these puppies mounted up, tomorrow will be the perfect time to slay.
Any thoughts about the Automatics vs....
Any thoughts about the Automatics vs. Nordica Patrons? Ski publications suggest that the Patrons are superior in both the groomed and pow.
Totally different ski - the patron, to me, is less interesting. I like the tapered tip and tail on the Automatic and I think the Automatic is better at slashing and making small turns while also being more stable when you're going really fast. The Patron skis more like a very rockered all mountain ski - so might be a good choice if you're going to ski it every day regardless of conditions, but for a pow ski I'd take the Automatic any day.
Just buy it and Love them dude!
- Gender: Male
- Familiarity: I've used it several times
I bought 186 weeks ago and love them. Can�t wait for snow! Great thanks to Atomic Automatic brothers from Slovakia :)
Now after some riding I know I cant be wrong. Maybe I should bought 193. I am short (171 cm) but strong skier. These skis are everytinhing what I was looking for. Fast, stable but still allows me to do some simple tricks. I had mounted them at 2,5. Due to my style and weight I remounted them at 1. It is dream to ski automatic. In every conditions I feel stable and I have trust in my automatic. Sorry for my english.
When do you expect to get some more...
When do you expect to get some more 193's?
Original painting for the graphic
The graphic is from a digital painting that I did a few years back, and is now integrated in the 2012 automatics. I called it "Tape monster" cause I used this brush that was shaped like a cassette tape stamp and the painting had two monster faces in it.