Tanner's signature twist on the insanely versatile JJ powder ski.
The Magic J Ski is Armada's latest Signature Series ride, and it takes screaming-fast powder skiing to an entirely new dimension. Tanner took the versatile JJ powder ski and twisted it a little by adding width, reducing taper, and moving the widest point of the sidecut slightly forward at the tip and slightly aft at the tail. The result is a rockered ski with the float of a blimp and the high-speed stability of a stock car—a type of ride most fitting for experienced powder-fiends.
- EST Freeride Rocker uses Armada's second-most aggressive tip and tail rocker for flotation and maneuverability and it includes traditional camber underfoot for precise turn control on hard snow
- Hybrid Ultralight Core is a wood core with high-density wood stringers to stiffen longitudinal flex and lightweight wood that boasts a high strength-to-weight ratio
- AR50 Construction uses cap construction in the tip and tail and sidewall underfoot for the ultimate balance of reduced swing weight, increased durability, and powerful edging
- AR50 Sidewalls increase torsional rigidity which translates into powerful edge hold
- Laminate Matrix layup increases torsional rigidity and provides further reinforcement above and below the core so you can ride the Magic J hard
- CK Stringers add to tail durability while giving this ski pop that's essential for ollieing out of deep snow
- 50/50 Base gives you the best blend of speed and durability
- 1.7mm Impact Edges are thick enough for all-mountain riding and light enough to reduce swing weight noticeably
- 125-127mm waist provides maximum flotation and a nice, wide platform to stand on when you're riding out drops, pillows, or steep lines at high speed
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JJ On Steriods
- Familiarity: I've used it once or twice and have initial impressions
There was a mad amount of hype surrounding the Magic J. Whether it be through Tanner Hall destroying lines in BC with this very same ski or from the Armada representatives who, considering they could run the JJ every day of their lives, consider this ski the funnest they've been on. Needless to say, I was interested to put these to test.
And they passed. For how wide this ski is, I'm once again surprised at the versatility. What needs to be realized is that this ski doesn't like a traditional style. It enjoys more of the slarving (letting the ski run a bit subtle and pivot through the initiation of the turn and hitting the edge around the middle to end of turn) type of technique as it actually felt more stable when slarving the turn. I can't say I've ever felt that kind of response from a ski before.
The float is, as predicted, unbelievably easy with a centered stance giving total control in super soft or manky pow. Chop is guzzled up as well with a little more aggression. The swing weight is pretty good for the size, but be prepared to draw out your airs and tricks to get more than one rotation done.
I guess the only drawback to this ski is that if you don't know how to slarve, skiing on this ski won't provide any good results. Carving is very unwieldy and feels super unstable through the beginning to middle of the turn. Also, very hard and choppy conditions obviously don't suit this ski very well.
In conclusion, if one is looking for a big mountain pow jib ski, you probably won't find much better on the market right now.
- Familiarity: I've put it through the wringer
For years I was begging Armada to make a super JJ. They came out with the AK JJ, but it was just longer and slightly stiffer. I was bummed, then they released the Magic J..and it was everything I always wanted!
I always felt that the regular JJ in a 185 was slightly too short considering the camber profile. I always wanted it to be 189-191cm. Armada nailed it with the 190cm. Second, the turn radius always seemed slightly short.. with the new 22m turn radius that is also fixed. Third, the regular JJ just seemed too skinny compared to my ARG's, and I wanted something that could surf a little better...the elongated rocker profile and wider waist solved that problem. Finally, the regular JJ wouldnt' stomp some cliffs as hard as I wanted it to, the new Magic J is noticeably stiffer than the JJ, so you can ride away clean even if you mistakenly land back or forward from center.
If you like the JJ but want a ski that can go just a little bit further.. look no further than the Magic J.
how is the magic j in the slopes compared...
how is the magic j in the slopes compared to the jj?
It is a little bit cumbersome on groomed and extremely hard/compressed crud. Other than that they ski better, they charge through crud better, are stiffer in the tail so they stomp landings easier, and they float/slash better in pow.
Powder to the people!
This ski destroys powder. Easily the sickest powder ski I have been on in years. Don't be afraid to ski this on the groomer back from your epic turns or through spring crud as they feel at home in these conditions as well. These are also very light for a ski this large and won't hold you back when you want to throw down off that cornice or fresh wind lip.
how are these for hitting backcountry...
how are these for hitting backcountry kickers
I just want to know what the swing weight is like
These skis are very easy to spin with and have a low swing weight for a ski this wide. With the sidewall and cap construction you get a lower swing weight without sacrificing torsional rigidity.
ARMADA Magic j's /thall pro model
- Gender: Male
- Familiarity: I've put it through the wringer
firs thing, ARMADA, best brand of skis on earth. secondly these skis ride like a dream, after having the jj's I picked up a paid of these aswell, in the deepest of snow they are Magical! charge the Sh*t out of mountains with the extended camber underfoot. deff pick up a pair. if not these anything ARMADA will take your breath away.
Magic J's on crud snow
These performed very well even in poor snow conditions.
Hey i'm 6ft, 175 pounds. ride mainly europe...
Hey i'm 6ft, 175 pounds. ride mainly europe with odd trip to PNW each year. Ride moderate aggressive, like drops, hits and going as fast as poss like most riders out there. Simple Question...JJ 185 or Magic J 190? bare in mind europe had an immense pow season last year and touch wood has had decent so far this year but this is not always the case. Any help with making my mind up would be much appreciated.
Magic J is the jam! We're of similar height and weight and I love the Magic J. it's the perfect ski right in between a 185 JJ and the 195 AK JJ. Skied both quite a bit and the 185 felt like it was quite enough some times unless it was perfect pow, and the AK was almost too much unless you're in mid-season shape and charging super hard. 190 Magic is perfect!
Thanks for the advice buddy...glad to hear it especially as I went ahead and hooked myself up with some magic J's!! I fell in love at first sight ha..Only 15 days 'til I get to put them through their paces ..CANT WAIT!!
Hey, I am 16 and 6'4, about 150 pounds...
Hey, I am 16 and 6'4, about 150 pounds so needless to say Im pretty lean. I have been skiing for about 8 years and am looking to get a powder ski that I can go have fun on with my friends. My local Mountain is Mt. Bachelor and I was hoping use it as a powder ski as well as hit some backcountry jumps and have fun. I went to my local ski shop and went in having in mind that the JJ 185 were a good choice for me. However the guys at the store had some worry that the 185's might be too small and recomended the AK JJ for the added length. However the AK JJ is a completly different ski with its much stiffer flex. The guy also had me looking at the Magic J in a 190 cm length. The reason I am worried about going with the AK JJ is because I still want to be able to do jumps and spin. Anyone who has ridden any of these skiis or has insight on the Magic J(it is new and very few reviews are out) feel free to comment. I also have a pair atomic panics so this would not be the only ski in my quiver.
I think Magic J's would be awesome for you. I've skied both and I think the AK is a little too much for every day skiing, but the Magic J is right on the money. Maybe even a little surfier than the AK or the regular JJ, and definitely a good choice.
hey Aust. 13. I'm 6', 175lbs and ski the 185 JJ as my every day ski. The AK JJ is for the deep pow days and for days after about 40 - 50 days once my legs have got really strong. I love the AK's and I love the JJ's but if you like tree skiing the 185 is the way to go. The 185 is very playful and more enjoyable to ski on. Lots of people say it is not very stable at speed, I just say they suck.. The AK is a lot more stable at speed, but the JJ is better in the bumps and trees. The AK will charge a little better thru the crud, but it is one BIG ski. I haven't mounted my Magic J's yet, but my plan is to ski them mostly as my back-country / slack country ski as they are FAT. Anyways, for a one ski quiver, resort ski, the JJ is the best ski I've ever been on. Side note, I did not like the JJ 185 when I first got on them, everything seemed wrong about them, short tail for landing, and just everything, but now, won't trade them for anything but maybe a new pair of freshly tuned ones.
Where is the recommended mount position...
Where is the recommended mount position with respect to core center?
The Factory Recommended Mount point is -5cm back of true center. Just like the JJ. Some have pushed forward slightly but I'd go with factory recommended and wouldn't move any further forward than -3.5cm from Core center. Hope this helps
Not that I disagree with Ryan, I do think for most people that is about the best mounting position on these skis, but I have them mounted -1.0cm from center (just my preference for my type of skiing) and they still shred. so it all depends on what type of skiing you do!
Armada Magic J
Just when I thought the JJ's couldn't get any better, they did.