The powder pack’s alpha male.
Armada’s JJ Ski has made a name for itself as a true leader of the powder pack. This ski has been doped up for powder, but it’s also stacked with features that enable it to gobble down crud and hardpack. If you want a ski that will put a smile on your face day in and day out regardless of the conditions, you just found it.
- Armada’s EST Freeride Rocker features the perfect blend of rocker and positive underfoot camber, so you float when the flakes fall and carve the hardpack like an ice sculptor
- The Hybrid Ultralight Core is made from lightweight wood with an exceptionally high strength-to-weight ratio, giving you the performance you demand without the extra weight
- Carbon and Kevlar® stringers in the tail extend the life and fun level of this ski, once you pop you just can’t stop
- The AR50 Sidewall sports a cap construction in the tip and tail with a classic sidewall underfoot, providing the perfect blend of performance, durability, and low swing weight
- Armada’s special Laminate Matrix utilizes directional fiberglass layering to dictate torsional rigidity and flex pattern, ensuring you will be the boss of your skis at high speeds
- With a 136mm front contact point and 115mm waist, this kid is beyond husky
- The 1.7 Impact Edge does its part to keep things light and is heat-treated for super strength and durability
- 50/50 Base technology was designed for skiers who want everything in one package, both speed and durability give this base its bite
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Best ski ever?
- Familiarity: I've put it through the wringer
Honestly, this is the best ski I have ever skied on. Super playful, and is a great powder ski. Have put 60-70 days on these and are holding up great. I mount them right on the line, you could get away with -1cm if you like more of a directional feel.
switches from traditional sidewall to capped.
I mounted my 185 JJs with griffon schizo...
I mounted my 185 JJs with griffon schizo bindings, the center of them being at -3 on the ski, so i basically have 3cm to move up or down on them. I know that the factory recommended mounting point is at -5 assuming that was suggested for powder, but does anyone have any suggestions on where to keep the bindings while skiing on non powder, variable, or hard-packed conditions?
Most people I know who ski this ski either mount it at the recommended for everyday riding, or they are within 1cm of it. If you go more forward or even up to 3cm back from center then the ski will feel like the it has more tail making it awesome for skiing switch in pow or even in the park for that matter. The further back you mount it the better it will ski forward and the better it will handle crud, powder, and even groomers. The exception to this is mounting it too far back which then gives you less tail and a less stable platform to ski on. A buddy of mine mounts most of these for Armada here in Utah, and he typically mounts his own pair 3.5cm back from center. Really the mounting point is based on how much tip or tail you prefer on your skis so I would say to take a look at them on the mounting bench if possible just to see how the binding sits in the different locations you are considering.
Love my Armada
I use these as my touring/pow day set up. They're lighter than my amplids, but heavier than my buddy's BDs. I work harder on the way up, but his chatter on way down while mine shred. These aren't pontoons, so there are better pure powder skis. But JJs still rip it up in the powder and are just as good back on the groomers.
They are still the best
Three years on these bad boys and they are still awesome
After another season on the JJ's, I just wanted to chime in and say that they are still the best, most versatile powder skis on the planet. That is all.
can you suggest bindings for this ski? My...
can you suggest bindings for this ski? My weight is 100 kg, advanced skier
I am about your weight, little lighter, 205lb and I have the Salomon STH 14 on them. They are currently sold out here at backcountry, you can upgrade to the 16's or get the Atomic FFG 14 team binding, identical binding to the STH 14, different colors.
Picking up my...
Picking up my second pair of JJs. The last 3 years have been heaven. Resort skiing, mostly back bowls, very aggressive. 6'4", 190lbs. Currently have Marker Griffins. What is the best set up for the 115 waist on the 185?
I have these on my JJ's 185 and love them. Great price right now also!
Thanks Robb. Ordered the 14 Din version (in Rossi format). Great ski!
Nice setup. I wasn't worried about the DIN being 12 on the Looks. I am trying to save my knees! Enjoy the skis, I know I do.
Best Skis Ever
- Familiarity: I've put it through the wringer
I demoed about 10 different skis this winter, in all conditions. I kept going back to the JJ. It is at home in the powder, but handles everything you can throw at it with ease. I mounted at factory recommended and would highly recommend you do the same. I am 6' 210 lbs. I went with the 185 as I didn't want the 195 AK JJ. I do not regret my decision to go with 185. I like the nimbleness of the 185 vs 195.
Buy these skis. you will not be disappointed.
- Familiarity: I've used it once or twice and have initial impressions
I rented these this year on a day with 9" of fresh, light pow! . The handled smooth and beautiful in the untracked snow. Even as the day went on and everything got tracked out, they were still great and playful. These skis are fairly stiff (7 out of 10) and hold an edge on hard pack good. With such a short turning radius, you can ski tight trees to small chutes. The 115mm underfoot would make this perfect for a one ski quiver. I would recommend these skis to anyone who skis it all.
Hi, im 20 years old im 5" 7 and 147 lbs i...
Hi, im 20 years old im 5" 7 and 147 lbs i have the kung fujas 2012. And dont know if its up for the challenge when i comes to the deeper days. So if anyone have tried in deep snow, let me know.
So i have three skis in mind.
The pettitor, cause i heard awesome thing about them and sean rides them so there most be something about them.
And then the armada JJs also cause i have heard lots of good things about them and its a popular ski.
And then theres Line MR Opus which is also a great cause they havn`t change in 2 years or something like that and people talks great about it.
But Dont know what to choose, im not new to skiing but i im new at going so much into my gear cause i think its important these days when there are so much to choose between. So here is it im going to france next year for the season. And i like to play around the pow cliff drops building kickers and just around have a blast. But also like to charge hard in the pow sometimes and take a jump throw park and buttering a little bit arond when the days calls to an end. So a really good ski in pow but also a ski who will do on some drops things like that. And any other skis would love to here about.
Actually i need a ski like the Kung fujas just maybe a little bit soft in tip and tail and go better in deep pow. And what length should i go after?
Id go with Mr. Pollards Opus in 178. If you want more stability at high speeds, go with the 185. You can't go wrong with the Opus and if you are leaning towards something to ski as your every day pow ski, the Opus kills it on everything. The Opus can handle everything you described and is its an awesome plank to play around on all over the mountain. Check out what Blister had to say in their review. Good luck in your search.
Thanks. Sounds pretty awesome ski something for me. Thing when i get to france i demo one 178 length and 185 to compare.
And what binding would u recommend? im thinking marker griffon schizo?
The Schizo doesn't have a big enough brake for the Opus. You would have to buy a bigger brake from marker to get it to fit and you might have to bend it. The Griffon would be fine but if you huck big cliffs go with the Jester unless you plan on doing some slack country or a little bit of touring, then go with the Marker Barons or Dukes. Just depends on your level of abuse youll put on them. Here are the reviews for those:
Can't go wrong with any of them.
Mounting? I have the Salomon STH 14 Driver...
Mounting? I have the Salomon STH 14 Driver and 185's, spend most of my time in the trees but charge a trail or two during the day. I will be dabbling in the switch game, but not dependent on it. I was thinking -6 instead of the recommended -5 because after reading reviews I hear it can get a little squirely at high speeds. Any suggestions? 5'10, 205lb, aggressive. Thanks!
I'd go recommended. I am about your size (5'10"/190). I was thinking about mounting my 185 JJs a cm or two forward because my Alpha1s are mounted forward and have the same shape but a 176. After I got on them at recommended due to speaking with an Armada rep, I was in love...the versatility from groomer to powder is pretty unreal.
I'd go with recommended, too. I have demo bindings on my 185s and I've played around with a mount further back. The further back mount didn't help much because the occasional loose feeling at high speeds I was getting was coming from the tail rocker not my mounting point. The recommended line helps me kill it more in the trees and defiantly makes switch effortless.
Live in MA and mostly ski Vermont and...
Live in MA and mostly ski Vermont and Maine. Looking for a ski that I could take out West on occasion and still ski the typical East Coast, mostly groomed terrain. Is JJ appropriate. Also the proper binding for advanced intermediate who skis some black and likes to ski fast.
Another good suggestion, Matt.
I would call the JJ a dedicated Pow ski for out west. People love how it performs on groomers (and they are right for a ski with these dimensions), but if I were going to be spending most of my time on the East Coast I'd look for a ski that shines there and still performs well out west. To me, that would be a less "fun-shape" pow ski and something more like the Volkl Mantra or 4FRNT Turbo. If you want something between the JJ and the straighter skis I just mentioned, check out the Rossignol S3, which splits the difference nicely.
The JJ is just going to underwhelm you if you like to lay trenches in groomers compared to all of the skis I mentioned. Here's the links:
I agree that the JJ is major overkill if the majority of your skiing is on hardpack. If you want to rail groomers and still have fun on the fresh days, get the TST from Armada. My favorite ski for holding an awesome edge on the hard and still having great flotation on the pow days. The TST is 103 underfoot which is by no means fat but it has the same shovel as the JJ and has early rise rocker for good flotation. You seriously can't go wrong with the TST!
I am in the process of picking up some...
I am in the process of picking up some 185s and I am checking out bindings and I am thinking the Salomon STH 14 Driver Ski Binding. They seem reasonably priced and from the reviews they seem like they will do the trick. I am 5'10, 205lb,aggressive skier, and will be doing mostly resort skiing but do make it into the BC every once and a while. Am I right in thinking these bindings will do the trick or should I be looking at a different set up? Thanks!
You are right - the STH 14 Driver is great for most anything. Obviously not the right choice if you're hiking for turns in the Backcountry, but for resort use or the occasional bootpack (they are super light!), I love them.
I mounted Marker Dukes on mine. I'm only riding my JJs on pow days in bounds, so the AT binding will be fine. Plus I still have the freedom to roam the BC. If these are you're everyday ski, get the alpine binding and a pair of alpine trekers.
Good Times on the JJ
- Gender: Male
- Familiarity: I've used it several times
I wanted something with more camber than the 11-12 Obsethed for hardpack and groomers and so far this is doing the trick. I don't like the types of skis that are actually meant for hardpack and groomers so this is about as close as I could find to getting a ski that performs well on firm snow as well as anything soft or soft and chopped up. I haven't had them in powder yet but I guess they'll do. I'm so used to the huge rocker of the Obsethed that it's hard for me to understand how something with so much camber could also perform well in powder with not as much rocker. The only reson I'm not giving it 5 stars is that it should be made in a 189. I'm only 5'11 so I didn't want to get the AK (195) because I thought it would be just too much ski and not really the size I would want for an all-mountain, non-powder ski on which I'd have to be making a lot more turns. That's a huge jump between sizes (10cm). So all in all after 3 days of mainly hardpack and a little bit of soft, chalky snow left over from a 4 day previous storm the JJs are turning out to be a great, stable, quick turning, edge holding, and hopefully versatile ski.
Thanks Mark for your reply. I was interested...
Thanks Mark for your reply. I was interested in the S7 or possibly the Super 7, however, I assumed @ 275lbs I would overpower the ski. The other ski I was interested in was the Nordica Patron, the 185ish length still had a short radius. Really would like a short radus ski. If the AKjj's turn good in trees I guess the longer length would be ok, just have to buy a new ski bag mine will be too short:). I just want to make sure the ski I get will float me and help me turn as I am more proficient on ice than powder.
Brian, I think you're right that the S7 or the Super is going to have a squirrely tail for someone who likes to charge. I'm riding the Atomic Automatic this season and that is another option for you if you want a stiffer tail, short radius pow ski. The Patron gets great reviews - the only drawback I can think of is that the fatter tip (not tapered) can be hooky in weird snow. The 193 Patron would be pretty reasonable at your size and a touch shorter than the AK JJ (though in my opinion both are easy enough to turn in the trees). As is usually the case in life, you gotta pick what is most important and optimize for that - stability and float, or maneuverability. Let us know what you end up with!
WHAT BINDINGS SHOULD I BUY FOR ARMADA JJ...
WHAT BINDINGS SHOULD I BUY FOR ARMADA JJ 185? I USE TO SKI 60% OUT OF PISTE. I AM 185 100 KGS FROM GREECE
Hi Dimitris - many binding brands prohibit us from shipping their product outside of the US. Here are a couple of good binding options for the JJ that we are able to ship to Greece:
You will want a binding that fits at least 115mm at the waist, which both of these do. If you're looking for a really strong binding that can handle large airs on a regular basis, this is another good option:
thanks a lot. you ve been very helpful
Hey Dimitris! I like the Rossignol FKS 140 or 180. Super solid.
I see a lot of questions on weight and...
I see a lot of questions on weight and length. I am a lot bigger than the previous mentioned skiers at 6-5 and 275lbs. I am looking for something to take out west on ski trips but still play a little back in Minnesota. The JJ's sound nice as I want a rockered ski with a short radius. The Patrons look good but the jj's look like they might be more usefull at home. Out west I love trees. Are the 185cm JJ too short for me? Thanks.
The 185 will keep you afloat in most conditions but I think its suitability will really depend on what kind of skiing you want to do. If you like to come out to Snowbird and mach down the cirque, you should really consider the 195 AK JJ with metal. Even the big JJ is really easy to turn in the trees due to the heavily rockered profile.
If you're open to skis that aren't the fun-shape that is popular in the JJ, Atomic Automatic, Rossignol S7, etc. - you might want to check out the Volkl Mantra, Blizzard Cochise, 4FRNT Turbo or Kastle BMX 108. Those are all fat enough to handle blower Utah powder and they all have rockered tips to keep you afloat, but unlike the fun-shaped skis, they will lay a trench in the groomers too.
Can anyone shed some light on the JJ's v....
Can anyone shed some light on the JJ's v. Atomic Automatics?
I can do that for sure. I find the JJ's to be one of the better do it all big mountain skis out there as I'm able to carve, slarve, jib and charge with the same amount of effort for each. The JJ's do like to keep the turns more towards the medium/short range and likes speed unless there is iced over chop involved. It definitely skied the best in a medium effort between intense and relaxed though a relaxed style works as well.
The Automatics I found interesting as it is a bit softer of a ski with less tail rocker and a bit longer turn affinity. It is also a very easy ski, which requires a very relaxed style to ski and it seems to fight back if you try to get intense with it. Float and swing weight are about the same as the JJs depending on the size, but I do find that the Automatics do have a bit of a better landing platform.