- Rocker with traditional camber profile, Armada's EST Freeride Rocker pivots, smears, and slarves through the light and white without hooking or diving
- Torsion box construction (Armada's AR50 sidewall) increases underfoot stability and cuts swing weight in the tips and tails
- Wood core, Armada's Hybrid Ultralight Core, offers smooth consistent flex and crud-busting power without weighing you down
- Laminate Matrix and CK Stringer reinforcements increase durability and dampening
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Great Powder Ski
- Gender: Male
- Familiarity: I've put it through the wringer
Great Ski for skiing in the powder with a lot of float. Nice ski for trees and glades.
Personally wouldn't ski with <15cm overnight but I know people that ski it every day. Not going to give you performance on groomers.
The softer core can cause problems when mounting the bindings and after a season or 2 of heavy use (i.e. big mountain skiing and heavy 20ft+ impacts fairly regularly) the binding may start to loosen at the screws.
Having said that the ski feels very stable in most conditions and is nice and playful.
Thinking of mounting JJ with Salomon 12...
Thinking of mounting JJ with Salomon 12 wide ski binding or Dynastar PX 14 2009 binding. Any preferences or suggestions?
Spring Pacific Coast Trail Tour
These skiis come as described. The best thing you will ever click into. Powder, crud, corn, groomers, touring etc
April 4 2012
Whistler, bluebird day after foot of fresh. Hiking ridge before dropping into North Flute Bowl.
i am from china .172cm and weight 155kg.175...
i am from china .172cm and weight 155kg.175 or 185 fit me.i like powder,belongs to advance or expert.thanks.
How do these handle groomers and hardpack?...
How do these handle groomers and hardpack? Obviously they'll be great in powder, but I ski Steamboat so the conditions aren't always the best for fat skis. I just want to know how they hold an edge, how much chatter they have at high speeds, and how easily they turn on hardpack.
These will actually handle quite well on hardpack and groomers. Due to the rocker in the tip and tail they have a short effective edge on hard pack. It will take a bit more effort to go edge to edge because of the width, but with the shorter effective edge you will get a large amount of purchase and end up with good control. To be honest many people are surprised at how good the JJ is in all conditions and end up skiing them far more then they think they would if not making them their only ski.
When are you getting the 165 in stock?
When are you getting the 165 in stock?
Next round of skis won't likely be in until the late summer/early fall.
I'm around 5'7 and about 130lbs. I was...
I'm around 5'7 and about 130lbs. I was wondering if, since i will grow alot over a couple years (I'm 15), i should even consider the 185. I am an advanced skiier getting alot more into the backcountry, and wondering if going with a longer ski would be a mistake.
I'd go with the shorter ski for now. I think at that length, even though you'll grow, it might be too much ski at this point. I am 5'7 and 145 and ski high 170s. The trend nowadays seems to go shorter than what I ski, but it's comfortable for an advanced skiier. That being said, your weight might mean that ski at 185 is just a tad much. Plus, unless you are just doing big lines, in the trees or in tight situations, it's best to have a shorter ski you can quickly turn on edge.
I'm 20 yrs old, 190, 6'4" and ski tight...
I'm 20 yrs old, 190, 6'4" and ski tight trees with many cliffs. Currently I ski the 186 EP Pro, which is really scary in the hard corn. I find the 186 a little short, but the EP Pros are noodles. Does anyone have experience with either the 185JJ or 195AKJJ that can compare to either the 180s Bent Chetler or my EP Pros?
Sweet profile name. Understandable that the EP Pros would get slightly skittish in heavy corn snow. The 185 JJs would definitely solve that issue as they do have a bit more stiffness to them. The 195 AK JJ gets a bit stiffer than the regular JJ but might be a bit too unwieldy when the trees get tight.
I'm looking to get these and wondering...
I'm looking to get these and wondering about size. I'm 5'10", 160lbs. Should I go for the 185s?
It depends on your skill level. If you're a top dog sort of skier, you should be able to drive the 185s. If you're more intermediate, you may want to look at a shorter ski.
Anybody know the weight on the 175 JJ's?...
Anybody know the weight on the 175 JJ's? And also, how good are they for touring. I don't do any long skins but are they light enough for some short skins? Plan on mounting the Marker F12 Tour.
I tour on the JJ 185 with Axl telemark bindings. They are an excellent touring setup for those missions that take you to high consequence terrain, where you want a stable ski, that won't wear you out on the skin up. They come in at 9.5 lbs per pair.
I have a new pair of Armada JJ's on order,...
I have a new pair of Armada JJ's on order, 175, I weigh 153 lbs, 5'9'', I am an advanced somewhat aggressive skier, age 69, been skiing a long time. First pair of rockers, like the pair I demo'd.
What binding is best for this ski and where does one buy them?
hey im exactly 175cm tall and weigh about...
hey im exactly 175cm tall and weigh about 135 i normally ski moguls and steep stuff i might do a single groomer in a day but hardly ever, should i go for the 175 or 185?
5'10, 150 lbs and 15 yrs old, advanced...
5'10, 150 lbs and 15 yrs old, advanced skier. Should i look into 175 or 185?
It depends on your type of skiing. You ski the trees often and prefer shorter turns, then go with the 175. If you're into longer lines and less quick turns, go with the 185.
I was wondering what length i should get...
I was wondering what length i should get in the jj's. I am 5'7, 130 lbs and 14 years old. I am looking at them for next year, what length do you think i should i get 165 or 175? I am an advanced skier.
Peter - If you're an advanced skier, I'd bump up to the 175 for sure. I'm 5'7", 150 and 28 years your senior, and run the 175, and love 'em.
im 6'3" and i weigh about 220lbs. what...
im 6'3" and i weigh about 220lbs. what length should i get. im leaning towards the 195, because of the rocker in the tip/tail. any suggestions?
Yea, I'd say the 195s will be great for you. I've got a buddy who is 6'2 205 and skis these with great pleasure.
Tom, I'm 6'2" about 212. I've skied the 185 for 2 yrs now and love them. However, they didn't make the AK version when I bought mine. I'm sure both would work for you.
As near to perfect as can be expected
I am an aggressive expert skier who grew up racing on SL and GS skis (such as Dynastar Speed SFs....amazing back in the day) then switched to 1080s, Pocket Rockets (originals still the most fun ski ever tried but really crap on hard stuff), etc. I have owned the JJs for the last couple of years and they are amazing...excellent for deep powder, stomping big cliffs, choppy/cruddy/slushy stuff and, surprisingly, amazing on groomers...you can really go mach 10 and feel comfortable (brings back the good ol days of using race skis). It turns quick if you want it to and not bad through the bumps, although their width obviously make them not ideal. The only conditions I have experienced some downsides is on very steep hard/icy snow (e.g. poubelle couloir (Grands Montets not Aiguille du Midi one) in Chamonix and similar)...it is really hard to get the pressure down on the edges and prevent them from 'bouncing/skipping' sideways.
All in all, an amazing ski. BTW, I ski the 185s with Marker Jester 16 bindings at factory recommended mounting point (6ft 1, 170lbs).
P.S. Any recommendations for a ski that does steep, icy/hard stuff excellently that isn't a race ski and can still do other stuff OK (...the negative profile/image of the JJs) would be much appreciated.
Who mounted these tele? What do you...
Who mounted these tele? What do you think?
My buddy skis the 185s, he's 6'2" and weighs 190, really likes the JJ mounted as a tele setup. I was thinking about doing the same, he has them 2" back from center and says they're a little more surfy than his old ARV setup, but he can really slice and dice in the trees and on the ice.
I have the JJs mounted tele (at -0.5 cm from boot center) with Hammerhead bindings (stiffy springs, position 5, T1 boots). I think they are exceptionally good as a telemark ski.
just pick up the 185 jj im 6' 225 just...
just pick up the 185 jj im 6' 225 just curious on mounting??? 1 inch back of core center or facotory recomended?? wont be skiing swith much
I usually ride about 1 inch back from center, but if your not riding switch much you could go back a tad further.
Hey im getting some JJ a cant decide on...
Hey im getting some JJ a cant decide on the 175 and 185 i am 5'8 and 205 lbs. I am a fairly strong skier but i am unsure. I live in Sout East Idaho and ski in Sun Valley and many places in north utah there is lots of powder but i would still like to do some park things including 360 and 540 and so on. I would love to hear what you think and everything is appreciated. Thank you
185 for sure!! At 205 lbs its a no brainer. You will regret the 175 on any day with new snow.
Definitively 185. They ski a lot shorter than you'd expect. While they aren't the best thing to use in the park, they're really not that difficult to throw around. Dropping to 175 won't help too much as they're just big sticks overall.