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Arc'teryx is expensive, but it will last a long time.
Value at $129...I think so.
You get what you pay for. I have owned these pants for about 6-months and they have gone and done everything in comfort and style, sometimes for multiple days at a time. These pants have seen trails, bikes, harnesses, crags, rivers and even a fancy dinner or two and handled them all like a champ. Washed many times w/o issue, doesn't stain any worse than any other material, and is very abrasion resistant. In addition, kudos to Arc' for providing pants for people over 6-feet tall. Most other manufacturers think the world ends at a 32-inch inseam, but not Arc'.
Given Backcountry's unparalleled return policy and the Arc'teryx LIFETIME warranty(great customer service too), I don't think you can go wrong.
One thing needed
I've got a pair of Arc'teryx Palisade Short - material teraTex - and, though I have trouble swallowing $98 for a pair of shorts, I would pay $129 for a pair of pants of the same material - to use in winter along with my Icebreaker Marino wool undergarments - IF the bottom of the pants was zippered to fit closely around my ankle. I don't want the bottom of the pant legs to be flopping to catch something. When that gets taken care of, I'll buy a pair,
Got 30x30 blacks ? Or just 30x32.
Got 30x30 blacks ? Or just 30x32.
Unfortunately we no longer have the 30x30 blacks and will not be getting any more in.
good for ongoing use
... but if you don't wash them after a couple times on the coffee bean colour shows slowly some faint stain areas from the x-times dried humidity.
otherwise great fit the belt ads a lot to this - useful pockets and good materials.
High Quality and Great Fit
I realize these pants aren't cheap, but the quality and fit are great. For reference, I'm 6'3" and 185 lbs. The 32 x 35 are perfect. The coffee bean color is unusual but I like it. I use these pants for casual everyday wear. I recommend these.
Great pants-hiked the Inca trail to Machu Picchu in them for for days--they keep you cool and dry really fast--just enough stretch and well placed pockets. They are expensive, but worth it when you have a multiday hike and want to travel light. I just wish they had a 35X36 in the light carbide and I'd buy another pair
WELL WORTH THE $$
I saw this pant on the cinematographer of a show I direct. He wears them all of the time on location and on the soundstage. They look fantastic and are very sharp and wear extremely well. I bought them for my husband and he doesn't take them off....well, he doesn't sleep in them, but you know. EXCELLENT PANT. Wish they made them for women.
Arc' teryx Palisades
These pants are exactly what I look for in hot weather gear. I have worn them twice and the fit is superb. DO buy ONE SIZE larger. This is a very sheer material and other comments about it being easy to tear are probably worth considering if you are a rock person. Integrated belt is a good option if you don't like to disrobe for TSA. The injection molded belt clasp has a positive feel when mated
These pants will dry very quickly and one should take care to not get TOO cool while wearing them. I am wearing these in Thailand for the next month and they wil not be taken to the extremes that most hard core venturers would encounter. The cost of the Palisades is understandable,given the detail in the seat of the pants. I have traveled with an 35 kg pack in Thailand, but now my health is an issue. Lightening of the load holds a higher priorty than having that cool knife with me these days. I decided on these pants after researching for many hours. Arc'teryx makes superb,niche market gear.
I purchased a Mirura 50 from them and I just wish I could afford more of their gear. I can rationalize my poverty by saying more gear "defeats the lightening concept". Enough said. Palisades pants are what you want if you are going to the hot zones of the planet. These would be the last pants I would use if I were a military/police guy, as they are very lightweight and would not have anything even close to the protective qualities of rip-stop. For an old guy kicking it on an island with no motorcars.. his step daugthers dripping papaya ice cream on him, these get an A+. The green curry will blend right into these...
Picked up these Arc'teryx Palisade pants right before a hiking/climbing trip to Utah... they not only look and fit great, but more importantly they performed really well! In temperature swings from 50 degrees to 30's at the top they were comfortable, repelled the high winds on the summit and held up to some tough slides and scrapes while summiting...they were breathable enough to deal with a trail run down the mountain without getting sweaty... I would definitely recommend these!
How do I locate the size?
How do I locate the size?
For example, what's mean by 30x32 in size option?
Is 30 waist size?
Is 32 leg length?
The first number is the waist size and the second number is the inseam/leg length. So for 30x32, 30 is the waist and the 32 is the inseam/leg length.
Great material and design (fits small)
These are a great pair of all around pants. Work well anywhere from hiking to the gym to hanging around town. Lightweight, very breatheable and great design (gusseted crotch/ articulated knees/ laminated pockets). THese are the same material as the Rampart pant (I own 2 pairs of these) just a slightly different cut. I wear a 32 in the rampart and had to move to a 34 in the palisade (the 32 rampart still has a looser fit than the 34 palisade).
To some the price of this garment may seem like an example of diminishing returns. I purchased the first pair for a peakbagging trip to Colorado and specific off-trail, scrambling and boulder-hopping summit applications. They are extremely comfortable, so much so that I had another pair shipped overnight to my hotel. These are definitely an upscale product that will exceed many price points..... for me the comfort factor combined with utility and durability sealed the deal.
Overpriced, even for Arc'teryx
I own my share of Arc gear and usually I am pretty impressed, but these pants just didn't live up to the name or price. I bought these pants for climbing/hiking and I wanted the absolute best hiking pant. These are good hiking pants, but I concluded after two weeks of use that at 130 dollars the value of these pants just isn't there. These pants are really light, but as a result the durability of the pant suffers. The zippers are poorly reinforced on the edges, can be easily torn even with normal usage of pulling things in and out of the pockets. On the plus side, the pockets are mesh which I love. The material itself is pretty strong, but does not handle stains very well. A little sap got on the pant and I have tried a bunch of washes, it just won't come out. The buckle system which is pretty mainstream nowadays sucks too. In washing the pant trying to get rid of the stain, the buckle would get undone mid-wash and the band twists into the lining of the waist; very annoying to manually fix this. Also, the buckle despite being in the middle cinches down on the waist on one side of the pant, requiring a bit of adjustment. The plastic buckle also has alot of potential to irritate with a harness on or strenous hiking. The excess strap doesn't have a slip or place to go so it just hangs. This didn't bother me but worth mentioning. Lastly, the cut and style of the pant feels much too loose for an athletic fit. I normally wear size 30 and the pants I bought to replace are actually size 32 and they look leaner. Anyways, the baggy fit is great for movement and flexibility, but a material with greater stretch could maintain the athletic fit and not limit maneuverability. Lastly, the style suffers. Wearing these pants I felt like a teched out gear whore. The zippers and excessive pockets really make you stand out in a crowd.
Now to compare, the pants I replaced these with are the Norrona Bitihorn Lightweight Hybrid single tone pants. These pants have a slimmer cut, more stretch, reinforced zippers on the pockets, a much less technical look, more customizeable waist belt, and ankle straps. All this and still ended up being cheaper than the palisades even with INTL shipping.
In summary, this is a good hiking pant with lots of nice quirks (mesh pockets and low weight), but also some pretty annoying design flaws. At 125 dollars, the value just doesn't match.
Are the palisades tighter fitting than the...
Are the palisades tighter fitting than the ramparts? I have the palisades shorts and they're pretty snug around my legs. Thks.
The Arc'teryx Rampart shorts (long) and pants are both looser cut than the palisades, and the shorts are a couple inches longer that the Palisade shorts.
Great pair of pants, not exactly what I wanted
These are a great pair of pants. I got a size 30 and normally wear a size 30/30 pant, however I would have been better off with a 28 these guys. No big deal. As far as quality is concerned, they seem like top notch pants. well made and designed, nice material. I was hoping for somethign more similar to the Mountain Hardware Talus pants, but these actually feel more similar to the Mesa pants with just a little more stretch. Nice and light weight, love the zipper pockets and the fit over all.
Fabric is great, lightweight, stretchy, strong, wind-resistant, and even comfortable! These are the best all-around hiking/walking pants I've every purchased. I am tall and thin, with long legs, and I am usually disappointed with these kinds of pants because the crotch is almost always too low, which means I can't lift my legs (for instance, when walking uphill), without catching the pants. It's incredibly irritating, and makes hiking much less fun. These pants do not have this problem, thanks to the stretchy fabric and the crotch being at the right height. I am 6"1' and 160 and the 30x32 are perfect in the waist but a little short on the inseam (but length is fine for wearing with hiking boots, just probably not with sandals), and 32x34 are great lengthwise, but a little bit big in the waist. The only reason these pants don't get 5 stars is the price, and because they don't make the size I really want.. 30x34!
Ripped and 3 years and still going strong!
Totally tore a hole in these on Mt. Daniel many years ago, they still fit awesome, glissaded, alpine routes, all the best and they're still my favorite pair of pants. Boo yah. The zippers zip totally sealed for a pretty low profile stretch feel.
Best Pants on the planet!
I thought my Mountain Hardwear Talus Pants were the last word in delicious stretchy goodness, and then I found these. With lighter, smoother, more wind-proof and even tougher stretch material, & they even sport a built-in, low profile belt. Fit is typical ArcT athletic perfection. These bad boys are seriously spendy, but deliver true pant Nirvana. Whether hangin' out, or hangin' by your fingers, they are so light and move so well, it's like wearing the Emperor's new clothes, but without the abrasion, wind or sunburn exposure. If you can afford 'em, you'll totally dig 'em. If you come up a little short, go for the Ramparts... fewer bells and whistles, but almost the same awesome material.
Tramped around New Zealand for 2 weeks in these. I'm 6'4" and the 35 inseam was perfect. These pants fit very well and are lightweight, yet rugged. Very breathable and react well to moisture. Highly recommended. Got the shorts too.