The Arc'teryx Pali Rope Bag keeps your cord out of the dirt and provides quick transport from pitch to pitch to pitch.
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I know that this rope bag is designed to fit into the Arcteryx Miura 50 backpack...my question is...will it fit into other typical cragging backpacks? (and I don't mean the awkward way that my other rope bags fit in) I want it to fit neatly into the bottom.
I bought this to replace a ropemaster back that I originally purchased back in 1996 as it had finally fallen apart. I was primarily interested in having a small, compact rope bag that would fit inside a backpack. After searching for quite some time, I realized that the Arc'teryx Pali was really the only bag that would fit this criteria.
When I go to the crag I typically like to put everything inside of a pack. I use an Osprey Variant 52 if I am trad climbing or an older ~35L Kestrel if I'm sport climbing. The 1st time I used this bag, I was able to fit the rope bag with a 9.8mm x 70m rope, a medium sized trad rack, harness, shoes, helmet, chalk bag, 3L of water and other essentials easily into my pack. Unlike the ropemaster, which required substantial effort to situate the bag in the bottom of my pack and even more effort to remove, this rope bag fit rather easily. I found the bag works well for its intended use (stowing in a pack), although it is a bit pricey.
As for the ease of use of the rope bag itself, like many of the reviewers have noted, you have to be pretty careful when flaking the rope onto the tarp before rolling it into the bag. With the 70m rope, it certainly seemed to require the rope be rolled fairly tightly in order to allow the roll top of the bag to close. With my older 10.2mm x 60m rope, the effort seemed to be about the same (maybe a little easier). Perhaps it is because I'm used to the original ropemaster bag (plastic buckles), or because I am just very anal-retentive about flaking my rope, but I feel that the effort to get the rope in the bag was about the same as what it took to get a satisfactory fit with the ropemaster - that is neither allows one to quickly throw the rope on the tarp, roll it up and go.
If you aren't looking to make this into a crag or gym bag with your rope and all accessories inside, and if you don't care about taking a bit more time to flake the rope, then I would recommend this bag to anyone looking for a packable rope bag. (Picture has 9.8mm x 70m rope).
I use it for a 70m 9.8mm rope and I really have to crank hard on the brim when i'm rolling it closed. The closing system wasn't obvious and took a few tries to figure out. It's a little awkward to carry, but that's probably because I'm using a really heavy rope and filling the bag to capacity. The material is really solid and the inner tarp has plenty of space for the 70m rope. The closing strap, which has to wrap around the bottom of the bag to keep the brim folded and the bag closed, can sometimes slide off of the bottom and cause the bag to basically open, either dumping your rope, choking you, or throwing you off balance. If you cinch it down properly, this won't be an issue but it takes a few tries to figure out.
I use it for a 70m 9.8mm rope and I really have to crank hard on the brim when i'm rolling it closed. The closing system wasn't obvious and took a few tries to figure out. It's a little awkward to carry, but that's probably because I'm using a really heavy rope and filling the bag to capacity. The material is really solid and the inner tarp has plenty of space for the 70m rope.
got this bag from SAC, wouldn't have otherwise.
Very high quality bag, light, thin, and nice big tarp. The straps compress the whole thing into a tiny bag compared to the metolius rope master bag.
Overall, I like it better than the metolius, it just takes a bit longer to get used to packing the rope: The straps are a bit tricky at the beginning because they can slide off and open the bag.
This is my least favorite arc teryx item I have purchased. It simply doesn't hold a 60 meter rope well. Unless it is perfectly coiled it won;'t even fit in the bag and then after that the roll-top closure doesn't stay closed. I've been walking along with this bag multiple times and have had the hole rope simply fall out. Very frustrating to say the least. The one nice feature is the included tarp. It is quite large and works well.
will this fit a 70m 9.6 rope?
Ok, how do you actually fit this thing into the Miura 50? Its really really a TIGHT fit, whenever I put it in, am scared I might rip the zipper on the miura apart.
The rope goes in the main compartment (the clamshell) then all of your gear racks on top of it. The front is for smaller stuff, but if that is where you fit your rope...kudos to you.