One beast of a jacket.
- Gore-Tex Pro Shell 3L fabric keeps you dry in brutal, high-alpine storms and allows evaporating sweat to pass through the waterproof breathable membrane
- CoreLoft insulation features highly crimped, multi-denier, siliconized polyester yarn to provide warmth without weighing you down
- CoreLine lining material is made from high-gague knit to trap additional warmth and is ultra-smooth for hassle-free layering
- Hand and sleeve pockets and front zip features WaterTight zippers
- In the event of an in-bounds slide, RECCO reflector strip can aid recovery by rescue teams that are RECCO equipped
- Arc'teryx designed its athletic-fit garments to have a close, articulated fit that layers well over a base layer and eliminates excess bulk
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Hi I have 6 foot 202 lb chest 44-45 in. What size for me L or XL?
Go for the XL, Sergey.
PERFECT....... little snug, but I dig it...
How is the Mako heavier than the Fission SL with less insulation than the SL? Also, which one of these has a more durable exterior? Lastly, between the 2, what is the comparison with fitment as far as length and layering is concerned. I was told at a Moosejaw that the Mako is more of a resort jacket with a less protective shell. I also am under the assumption according to Arcteryx site that it should be longer and more meant for layering. Any hands on experience with these 2 jackets?
The Mako uses a different type of insulation, has a thicker liner material and more pockets. Length is a bit longer on the Mako and it is a looser fit than the FissionSL. Both use really durable face fabrics that are still fairly light. Fission SL in minimal in features, Mako has more pockets, a pow skirt, Recco, etc. and will be warmer than the Fission SL, mainly because of the Coreline lining material. Good luck with the hunt.
I'm looking for just an incredibly warm shell that would work with an Atom LT if needed. In Chicago and do a lot of walking outside with negative temperatures. I don't want all the bulk as I wear professional clothes underneath but I'm prioritizing warmth over my attire finally. Looking at the Fission SL or the Mako. Any help would be appreciated.
Hey Levi, Take a look at the Fission SV or the Khuno. Both of these are warmer and with less ski features that may be in the way if you're wearing it around town. For comparision, the Mako has 100gm Coreloft, the Khuno 140 and seam taped Windstopper, with the longest cut, and the Fission SV, 200gm and GoreTex proshell.
Tried the Fission SV and it was just way to bulky although I could see it as very warm. Also looked at the Khuno and really prefer a full Gore-Tex exterior for the money being spent. I figure its worth a bit more at these price points. Thanks for the input as I did check them out. Still weighing between Fission SL and Mako. Also, not against a Theta AR and Hyllus combo. Not sure and would like some feedback from any experts out there.
Too warm for Tahoe?
I've dropped a size or two and am looking at refreshing my gear to the correct size. I have a Theta AR from a few years back but want to go for a dedicated ski jacket this time around (i.e. want a powder skirt).
I am thinking about this or a Sidewinder SV at the moment and am curious as to how warm this jacket would be given I ski almost 100% in Tahoe.
With my Theta I would normally wear a lightweight capilene base, a 100 weight fleece and the shell and that seems to work for most of the season. With a Mako I would imagine I would have to dump the fleece and maybe beef up the base layer?
I gotta say, it may be a bit warm for the warmer days in Tahoe. I've skied in this in the Wasatch and Canadian Rockies in temps at 20f and below and it's great with a baselayer, but when the sun comes out in April, it's pretty toasty. You could check out the Stingray or Sabre for a more versatile option that you can wear from Nov-May and adjust the insulation to temps and output. If you run a bit chilly or mainly ski during the heart of winter-it would be great.
Thanks Brandon. Reading up on the Atom line it seems that 100gm/m^2 coreloft might indeed be a bit too toasty. I'm imagining skiing in spring with the equivalent of a denali under a shell and that seems like a recipe for a sauna.
No love for the Sidewinder over the Sabre or Stingray though?
There's a couple ways to go here. The Stingray, Sabre and Crossbow all have a light fuzz lining the jacket, so are softer and have a touch of warmth by themselves (great for those above freezing, sunny days, with a light baselayer) The Sidewinder, Rush and Vertical are Gore Proshell, so have no fuzz, but are lighter and more packable/breathable (a bit). For the Sidewinder,it's really a personal preference with the curved zip; it's great because you don't get zipper stack on your chin, but it also makes the collar flappy when it's not zipped up. Vertical has a roll away hood and lots of pockets, and my fave, the Rush, has a straight zip and storm hood for max protection. Any of these will work for most winter days with the Atom LT (60gm coreloft). The Atom SV (100gm) is really warm and more of a stand alone insulator than a layer. info overload? The Stingray is the lighter version of the Mako.
I am looking at buying the Mako for my husband. He is a huge Heli skiier! He is headed to CMH this December He is a layer ski dresser... but I want this coat to be warm. We live in Colorado and ski alot at Vail and Aspen... There can be some really, really chilly days! Also tell me about the hoods on these jackets... can you stowe them in the collar or do the snap off?
I am 6.00 and 183 pounds... Do i need a medium or large? I have always use medium in North Face ski jackets
At 6'1" 175 I have always been a large in Arcteryx.
I'd probably steer you to large as well. I'm 5'11 170 and I go Med. Lge will give you room for a light layer underneath if it's really, really cold. Otherwise you'll be fine with a baselayer, and the jacket won't look baggy.
I'm thinking about Mako Jacket, but I thought you need to also have the second layer, like Hyllus Hoody, it will be my first jacket for ski. I wanted to buy a set: Mako Jacket and Pants, and this Hyllus Hoody. Will it be not to warm? The question is, when you have Mako Jacket, do you need a second layer or only a base layer? This 3 layer theory would be better for Stingray Jacket? I have a shop near (like 40km), but in the shop I will feel warm in all, I can't compare it to winter condition on a piste.
I will be riding my first ski season and it is in Switzerland :D As I have already bought a Ski Pass for the whole season I will like to ride both in sunny days and in bad weather.
Hope you can help me, thanks a lot!
If you're buying your first ski setup, there's really no need to spend a combined $1500+ on overpriced stuff. There are plenty of other great ski jackets out there for a whole lot less. Check out the First Ascent Downlines jacket instead. It's designed by some of the best mountain guides in the world from start to finish, function first, profit second, unlike the new Arc'teryx. Plus, it's on sale for $210 right now, so you can use that other $1300 to buy ski passes and such, or gas for a year. Check out the Stoic Bombshell Bib pants for a great lower body choice, and you'll be kitted out and ready to go. Hope this helps. Oh, and the downlines is thick and warm, so you won't need to buy a midlayer.
Oh, sorry. Here's the link: http://www.eddiebauer.com/catalog/product.jsp?ensembleId=40666&&categoryId=28480&categoryName=JACKETS--VEST&pCategoryId=28475&pCategoryName=FIRST-ASCENT&gpCategoryId=1&gpCategoryName=EB&catPath=~~categoryId=28480~~categoryName=JACKETS--VEST~~pCategoryId=28475~~pCategoryName=FIRST-ASCENT~~gpCategoryId=1~~gpCategoryName=EB&viewAll=y
Adam you are correct, the 3 layer theory is better for thinner shell type jackets like the Stingray. The Mako has 80gm insulation built in, and I've skied a few days in it and always wore just the Phase AR baselayer and was totally comfortable. The days I used it were snowy but not super cold (20f) and the pit zips kept me from overheating when it was sunny. It also makes a great jacket to wear out as a town coat, because it's warm and comfortable over a casual shirt.
Is the Mako made in Canada?
Hardly any Arc stuff is made in Canada anymore. If you're looking for made in Canada stuff, check out Westcomb. They still manufacture everything they make in Vancouver.
The Mako is not made in Canada, but is made in an Arc'teryx exclusive factory in China. Quality is identical to any Arc'teryx gear. And still superior to others.
Allistair, do the math- Stingray Jacket ($500)+ Atom SV insulation ($250), and add some vent guards and more pockets.
So Arc'teryx moves its operations to China to keep from having to pay expensive Canadian employees, yet still has the audacity to charge over $700 for a jacket? What's the Chinese expression for 'what a joke'?