Wiley's park ski that loves powder.
A new three-foot layer of frozen frosting gives Wiley Miller's 4FRNT YLE Ski the perfect medium for constant buttering, spinning, and inventive downhill expression. Essentially a park ski designed for powder, this fat, symmetrical, and tip-and-tail rockered ski encourages switch pillow drops, statuesque stomps, tree taps, and surfy turns in billowing blower. A bit of traditional camber and sidecut grip snow between storms so you can keep the butter train rockin' until another storm buries the canyon with a foot (or four).
- Rockered tip and tail provide easy buttering, turnability, and super-float in everything from deep pow to manky spring crud
- Hi-Lite Woodcore Block uses poplar and beech to provide a playful platform with lots of rebound for pop, slarving, and buttering up fat pillows
- Semi-cap (or torsion box) construction fuses the core, fiberglass, base, and overlapping top sheet between the sidewalls for strength, stability, and top-sheet durability
- Dampening system features rubber foil between the edge and core to silence chatter during high-speed turns and in-runs
- Long-lasting fiberglass sheets add longitudinal and torsional stiffness for sustained raging on crud and hardpack between dumps
- 118mm underfoot (177cm) keeps you on top of the deepest snow inbounds or way out in the backcountry
- Traditional camber underfoot and park-friendly sidecut grab old snow and cat tracks so you can still get rowdy weeks after a storm
- Sidewalls and a 360 full wrap metal edge channel the power from your legs directly to the snow for control
- Symmetrical design means the binding should be mounted 2mm back from true center; provides a low swing-weight during spins, effortless switch riding, and still handles great in the forward direction
Share your thoughts
- Familiarity: I've put it through the wringer
I Love these skis! They charge hard are suyper poppy and carve better that many park skis I have ridden. Riding switch they are super stable and fun. The only time the are not Ideal is on the super deep days where I would like to have the longer size.
Stoked to try these
- Familiarity: I've used it once or twice and have initial impressions
I have not ridden these skis yet, but from my initial impressions im real excited to try them. A fairly stiff mid section gives way to slightly softer tip, while the tail remains pretty stout. It's dimensions are symmetrical but the rocker profile is not so I would not recommend mounting this ski true center. -1.5-2.5 back from true center seems to be the ticket. Mr. Wiley himself rides them at -2.5. I will be mounting with P18's at -2. Will comeback with more comprehensive review later....
OK, so I picked up a pair of these in 187,...
OK, so I picked up a pair of these in 187, and want to figure out the right mounting point. Seeing as they're symmetrical, I was thinking about putting them at 3 back from true center. I ski switch quite a bit and like to throw 3s off cliffs, but I don't want too much tail when I get into bumps or harder crud. Any thoughts?
So far the mounting point that everyone seems to love on these skis is true center since they are symmetrical. You could go 3 back from center to make the tip longer and the tail more manageable in bumps and crud. I have found the 3-5 back is my favorite spot to mount my skis when skiing rockered skis. However with a symmetrical ski they really seem to ski and track best when mounted true center. Maybe ask the local ski tech you have mount them if he has any experience with mounting them back from center and what people have said about it.
the recommended mounting point is 2.5 cm back, and the spot is butter. go with that!
Yep what Brandon said. The ski is symmetrical but the rocker is not so you do not want to mount them at true center like Dan suggested. the consensus is -1.5 - -2.5cm back from center.
how would this ski compare to moment ghost...
how would this ski compare to moment ghost chants and k2 sweet luvs?
The YLE and the Ghost Chant will be similar skis with both being very playful in the powder and all over the mountain. The Ghost Chant will have less side cut and will not turn quite as quick as the YLE. The YLE has some camber under foot while the Ghost Chant is flat under foot but both will still hold an edge fine on ice while the rocker provides plenty of float in powder. You can easily butter on both pair and the rocker in the tip and tail make riding switch through almost any conditions a breeze. Compared to the K2 Sweet Luv both of these skis are much wider under foot and have less side cut. The K2 would be better for on trail skiing while the YLE and Ghost Chant will be more at home hitting backcountry booters or finding hidden stashes.
Sick!!!!! I just ordered some sweet luvs because they seem like the ski for me. Time to get my carve on!
This ski slays it all!
I use the 177 as my daily driver. Im 5-8" and 150 and thought the 177 would be too short, boy was I wrong! It kills all conditions except for the super deep days.With a low swing weight for a wide ski its easy to initiate a turn and spins. Its super playful and poppy, also after a year or so it will soften and butter super well. I mounted mine 2cm back from center and its a perfect mounting point for me. If your looking to get into the backcountry the 187 is a great touring ski, and will handle all the fun you can throw at it.
How does the 187 yle compare to the 184...
How does the 187 yle compare to the 184 bibby pro and 186 atomic automatic. looking to replace my 2nd gen 190 bibby's with something easier to manage in the trees...
These are completely different from the Automatics as they are used for different purposes. The YLE have a symmetrical sidecut unlike the Automatics which are have a directional sidecut. The YLEs are used for more backcountry freestyle while the Automatics are more of a big mountain charger. I cannot give you information on the bibby pros as I haven't used them but you currently own a pair so you have an idea of how they ski.
The YLEs charge hard. they want to go straight and fast and air everything in between. Yea they are more centered, but that just provides a bigger landing pad.
Would these skis be any good for use in...
Would these skis be any good for use in an AT setup?
Thanks for the question. The YLE could definitely be of some use in the sidecountry and backcountry when it comes to hitting booter jumps and gaps. It would be a bit tough as a daily driver though as hard and uneven conditions shake the YLE up a bit. Also, I'd put an alpine binding with a touring function (Marker Baron or Duke, Salomon/Atomic Guardian/Tracker) on there if you go with this ski.
Although the YLE does appeal to people interested in hitting big jumps in the backcountry, it's actually an unreal all around powder ski and is a great option for an AT setup. I have a pair of YLE 187's with marker baron's and this has proven to be a versatile use of the ski. I can enjoy them in the resort on pow days and take them on any "reasonably" length tour in the BC without much effort. Don't sell the YLE short. It's an amazing pow weapon and a ski that's just light and slim enough to make it a great option for a AT setup.
When The Park Ski Goes Off The Diet....
The YLE is the result. A straight up poppy, playful and fun ski that can also slay pow and not be soft enough to get in the way of itself when things get intense. The swing weight is definitely easy for the size, but the appropriate manufacturer's mounting point on the ski helps this as well.
It is a bit soft for those of you who prefer your turns to feel like your on race skis, but for that park skier who wants that easy transition to the BC or for pow days, here is your ticket!