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189 = ALL MOUNTAIN NECESSITY!
I got a pair of the 189cm's last season and let me tell you. They're perfect for an all mountain ski here in Utah. These things crush it in any condition from chopped up stuff, to fresh pow, and even on hardpack they perform surprisingly well. I'd definitely recommend these to anyone looking for a forgiving all mountain ski... with a little more preference to pow/crud, than groomers.
YES, YES, and YES!
I am a telemark skier, and honestly quite new to skiing altogether. I took the advice of a local ski shop owner in Crested Butte (Colorado Freeskier) and demo'd the 182's. I bought them and mounted them tele and haven't looked back. I am about to buy my second pair of them because I have simply overused them. At 5'10" and 165lbs, they are perfect for my all around needs. I am mostly searching for powder lines and drops in the backcountry, which in my opinion is the VCT's strength. They tour well, but it is on the way down these things really shine. I am a firm believer!
4FRNT Skis VCT Alpine Ski
Not a bad ski. Does everything pretty well. Fun when the snow is soft and will go through the crud.
Great backcountry freeride ski
This ski does backcountry and freeriding so well. it's got a wonderful flex pattern that floats really nicely in Duffy Lake Backcountry, but it's stiff enough to hold a hard line down choppy steep gnar. i have mine rigged with a pair of Fritschi FR + and it holds solidly on big lines, but the wood core in the ski is light enough for hour-long skins in the sidecountry. stellar ski for a pow day in bounds as well.
Decent ski, geared more for powder
The VCT's were a fun ski for the few days that I skied them in powder. They float well and have enough flex to be maneuverable. However, on piste they are a bit too straight and need more sidecut. They don't respond as well as other skis with similar dimensions.
not for the high speed charger
GREAT SKI for any type of condition and awesome response and great in bumps and the flex is awesome. They just don't hold at high speeds very well. (Like a cruiser down regulator Johnson at the bird)
Good Pow Ski VCT 182
Great ski for powders conditions, stiff ski but you can make it work how you want it to.
I skied the 4FRNT VCT for a day, and they seemed like perfectly good skis. They're a good width for an everyday ski for out west, and they handled well. Personally, I prefer a stiffer ski, and these felt kind of floppy, especially at higher speeds. My current everyday ski is the '07-'08 Legend Pro Rider, and I'll be sticking with them as I prefer their straighter side cut and stiffness.
This ski is a super rippin' all mountain ski! Skied really well in the park, dont be afraid of the width. Still soft enough to get those nasty butters in park and the pow. Give em' a shot, they wont let you down.
I found these skis to be adequate, but I was not blown away by them. With so many skis out there, I think a ski needs to excel in one direction. Should it be for powder, park or all mountain; these skis are good, not great for all concerns. 104 in the waist is a wash for me, I float just as well with 95 underfoot, but lose performance that I get with a 10mm skinnier ski. They work well for everything I reckon, but don't knock my socks off at all.
Such a fun ski!
I love this ski, I use this ski in all conditions, anything from crud to deep pow they work perfect. I suggest this to anyone looking for a good all-mountain/pow ski. You can't even tell they are 104 underfoot on the groomers, so much fun!
Most fun skis I've been on. Rip everything on the mountain. Be ready to charge and push yourself and these skis will perform to their limit. They'll open up down steep faces and rip big GS turns and then go into the bumps or trees and fly like John Mosley's mogul skis (well not exactly but you can get them to turn pretty fast).
Overall a sick ski for everything.
Likes to go straight.
I'm a 6'4" 160 x-racer and got the 189's looking for a big burly ski after having 183 gots that were just too soft/small. These things haul. Even on groomers. Hauling ass at alyeska in -10 making super g turns felt amazing. Took them home to Juneau AK where we had some awesome snow conditions in December. Ski them a couple days in 6-12". They performed pretty damn well. Only a few complaints. Maybe it's just getting used to the large amount of tail they have (got them mounted at suggested), but managed to flip over the handlebars twice on these when hitting into some deep pockets at high speeds. Also, didn't get much energy out of them when arcing in deep snow, although I didn't get a chance to ski them on anything super open. Mostly tree skiing. Speeking of trees, maybe it's just me, but I had a hard time swinging these bad boys around in tight spots. What normally would have been a cool 5 or 6 turn line ended up as a straightline through the middle of the chute I was looking at. But they had no problem with that. Super stable. Have yet to get any tip flail or chatter. So if your looking for something to haul serious ass on these are the ticket. Would have no qualms gettin out of a heli in AK with them. But do have some reservations dropping into really tight tree pillow lines. These skis will ride you if yor not careful.
182 VCT - I Like this SKI
I demoed the 189 (or older 190?) last year and liked the way it skied so much I'm on a 182 this year and it has proven to be a really good ski. I wouldn't consider it as one ski quiver material, but this ski does really great in crud and powder. Although it carves smoothly on groomers, I don't care to ski a 104mm under foot ski on groomers. There's much better setups for ripping groomers. This is a light, quick, and stable ski that I find works very well equally in tight tree's and when charging on open lines...powder or crud. Should have mounted an AT setup on them...
Not much more i can say that Matthew Tabrys didn't say. I have Dynafit TLT Vertical FT 12 Bindings mounted on them and could't be happier so far. Beta- Day 1: @ Mt Snow with about a foot of fresh on top of boiler plate, good float and pretty good edge when it was needed. Day 2&3 @ Jay: the second day there was between 18-23 inches reported and had a blast on these things. Days 4&5 @ Iceface NY ( im sure those who know don't need the mts real name). It does not get any worse than this, 43 F and raining on top of blue ice in a lot of spots. I was still able to at least grab enough of an edge to stay in control. Day 4 was 32 F so everything froze over again covered buy sugary manmade ( I really hate the east at times). As miserable as it was these skis still held up the challenge. Bottom line is this is a pretty damm good ski that can handle the sh#t here on the east coast and then shine out west. See you guys out there in Feb :-)
182 vct - great one ski quiver
I have these skis in 182 and they rip. These skis don't do anything exceptionally well, but they do everything great. Like making gs turns at high speeds, these are for you. Skis are super stable, fairly quick edge to edge, and have great edge hold. Like skiing pow, these are for you. at 129 in the tip and 104 underfoot you will get great float in the deep. Looking for a backcountry ski, this ski is for you. Relatively lightweight so great for touring, and with its twin tip, it is great for skiing/landing switch off kickers.
Very durable bases, sweet artwork on the topsheet, and even good in the bumps and trees.
Great ski for any and every condition.
A quickie about the 189's. The majority...
A quickie about the 189's. The majority of my ski time is east of the mississippi, so i'm wondering how the mid-fat ish 108 waist will do on ice coast groomers and whatever backcountry fluff can be found at jay peak. The main reason I'm looking at the 189's is because i'm larger than average at 6'4 220 and wanted something longer. Thanks
Torsionally these are one of the more stable skis in this catagory and will perform fine an bullet proof. As for size, I say "right on" with the 189's.Add On: I traded my friend my 191 ANTs for his 182 VCTs. I love these skis. They are my everyday skis out here in Colorado. I use them on groomers, crud, ice, powder, trees, park and everything in between and they still handle awesome. The bases are bomb proof as well as the edges. These are the most fun, hard charging skis I've been on. I would say the 189 is the perfect length for a bit of everything. I really like tight trees and bumps so the 182 was a bit of a better choice for me.
gotama knock off
I skied the 189's in early December at Alta for the day. I wasn't really that into them - they ski like a gotama knock-off. The only difference, is that the side cut on these felt slightly funky on the groomers - it felt like the tails always wanted to hook. In the crud - this "hooking" sensations was not appreciated.
In terms of construction - the pair I skied were falling apart after a season of use. The top sheet was coming apart and the ski felt dead/skied out.
I love the gotama's, and because these things are close to the gotama's i have to give these a couple of stars. But, unless you can get these for cheap - I would go with gotama's if you are looking at these skis.
hey willie i know i said that that was my...
hey willie i know i said that that was my last qestion but i have a few last clarifying question. the VCT 182cm will rip on groomer, crud etc. right? and they are a good all mountain ski right? i know i'm just second guessing myself but i'm done after this no matter what, which would you mark as the better all mountain free ride ski, the prophet or the VCT? In your opinion. And I know you said 182cm but just to make sure, 182cm for the VCT right?-thanx again my last one i promise. yeah i've been checkin up on where i ski at crystal mountain and there seems to be about 25 inches at the summit. not alot but hey its better then nothing. looks like it might be a slow winter up here :(
To be honest its a toss up between them, the prophet might have a slight edge on groomers, but as a freeride ski and in powder the vct would be better, I bought vct's so i think there better overall. go 182 it would be better overall. Its dumping at my house now, we are suppose to get 3 feet, i hope so, im getting tired off sking powder skis on groomers.- you have absolutely no idea how jelous i am right now. i'm goin up to whistler at christmas so it better be dumping up there. have a good season willie and thanx for the millionth time.
-williethank you so much for all your help...
-williethank you so much for all your help i would be so lost with out it. thanks again-henry
no problem-- i love talking ski gear, HEY ITS SNOWING OUTSIDE---- maybe we will finally get some powder in the sierras.