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The 4FRNT EHP is back, and it’s been training all summer for this year’s deep-powder huckstompathon. All three sizes of Eric Hjorliefson’s 08/09 EHP Pro Model series are now cast on the popular zero-camber design of last year’s 186cm version, with 4FRNT’s new HI-LITEblock wood core and damp Q-45weave glass layup. Thanks to an extremely early rise in the tip and tail, the EHP looks like a slightly flattened full-reverse-camber ski—and it floats and smears like one in powder—but the flat, traditional sidecut underfoot provides much better hold and stability when you pop out onto the catwalk, open up the throttle in crud, or hit a patch of wind buff. The GS-length turn radius means the EHP is most comfortable ripping big, fast turns like the kind Eric prefers, but we found the shorter lengths reasonably maneuverable, at least out here in the West.
Let me preface this review by saying that I when I skied these it was pretty firm and choppy, and didn't really get to test their versatility or floatation.
This ski is a true big mountain ski. It is pretty straight, with a long turn radius, and some early rise in the tip and tail to help with floatation and pivoting/smearing your turns in pow. It has a medium stiff flex to it, which is pretty sweet, and provides great stability. I skied them on a pretty firm day, and they held a great edge and were stable through all conditions. I took them off some 10 foot cliffs, and the landing was great. They absorbed a lot of the impact and didn't wheelie out like some other similarly shaped skis. 4FRNT makes really solid skis, and this one is no exception. They are really well built, and feel pretty solid underfoot. My only complaint about them was with regard to their carvability. They felt kind of hesitant to engage turns, and seemed more comfortable sliding the latter part of the turn. They were more slarve friendly than carve friendly. Which is fine, because they are designed to to ski bigger lines, which often involve sliding your turns out not carving them. I was just looking for something that would be more traverse friendly, seeing as how we have a lot of them at the bird. Overall, a super solid ski, that handles everything pretty well.
I'm 6'3" and 145 lbs. I own a pair of EP Pros and I'm considering these in the 193cm as an everyday ski. I know many would consider this a powder ski, but I like my skis fatter. Are they a good option as an all mountain ski at Alta and Snowbird?
Yeah man these are a pretty good option if you like your skis fat. They hold an edge well, and float great in any amount of pow. They have a long turn radius though, so don't expect much in the short turn area, but they do skid turn good. Ripping GS turns is super fun though.
just took these out in 2 ft. of fresh at big sky...AMAZING! they are the best big mountain sticks ive ever had. You can go big bomber long turns in the bowls or take em in the tight trees, no matter where they go their awesome. the 0 camber underfoot gives you a super nice surfy feel in the pow but also makes them really agile when your in a tight spot. They even work on groomers, if you keep your weight forward the whole way down you'll be smilin the whole way. (i'm 5'7 120 lbs. 16 year old and i could handle these like they were 10 cm shorter) they are great gotta get a pair and try em' out.
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These are different than the Hellbents and EP Pros. These skis do not have reverse camber to them. They are a flat ski with a longer contact surface than a reverse camber ski. And the tips and tails rise earlier than a traditional ski but do not raise off the ground nearly as much as the ep pros or hellbents. These are also a very stiff ski compaired to the soft flex patterns of the hellbents and ep pros.
Great ski in powder. Surprisingly flexible in other conditions. I was expecting to hate the groomers, bumps and trees in them based on the reviews, but they did way better than expected. I'm 200lbs 6' and am really happy with the 193cm length.
I have the possibility of buying these skis. I am 6' and 200, and I live in Andorra, country with a few days of not much powder.Can anyone tell me if they could be ok for me in 179? what about mounting point? Thanks.
If you are not skiing much powder, there are better skis out there for you. Look for something with a traditional sidecut and camber. It is going to handle variable conditions better than this ski. If you do get it, the suggested mounting point would probably be your best bet.
quite possibly the most versatile ski I have been on so far this year.. can hold an edge well .. not too big where you'll coast on top of powder all the time.. can submarine them easily for a face shot as necessary (when conditions permit) , light weight as well which makes these very easy to maneuver
The turn radius is 39 to 40 meters so they are not quick skis, but if your strong enough you could manage, they are ment for big open line chargeing but if your good you could ski them anywhere. i don't know how fun they would be though. Actually, these skis are extremely quick due to the rocker tip and tail. This greatly reduces the effective edge on these. I have last years 193 which is essentially the same as this year with the exception of the tip being more low profile and early rise. It's awesome. It's fast and skis more like a 185 or so. I ski it on big open lines, chutes, and in the trees without hesitation.
Conditions encountered: Mank, tracked Mank, refrozen mank. These skis owned the nasty conditions. Skied the 186 length and they are great for me(6'3", 190lbs). Stable at speed, quick, easy turn initiation in tight trees. Even got these skis to carve turns on the groomers. Definitely could be a one ski quiver in Utah. Skied these a bunch last year. They are definitely the most confidence inspiring, versatile skis I have skied. The stiffness is perfect for charging hard or bouncing through pow and trees. You can dump speed incredibly quick thanks to the "Slarvability" of the skis. Love em.
I skied these for a morning and was very pleasantly surprised by them. They are reasonably stiff and felt stable. I've also tried 4FRNT's VCTs previously, and did not care for them at all, finding them floppy feeling, but not so with the EHP. My everyday ski is the Dynastar Legend Pro in 176 (though I really, really wish Dynastar made these in something around 180-183), and I took the EHPs out in 186. I was a little worried about skiing the longer length, but after a few turns I realized I was going to be just fine. With the rocker design they skied shorter and I had no problems at all. I really like that these skis are relatively straight, and that they have narrow tips and tails. I think these would be a nice quiver ski for the West. Call me old fashioned, but I prefer something a bit narrower and more traditional for my everyday ski (about 100 underfoot with traditional camber). The EHP doesn't really carve on the groomers, though is just fine for the runout back to the lift. I was more buttering my way down. I also would prefer something more traditional in chalky snow too. In my opinion, the EHP would be a great choice for deeper days and chopped up snow.
To me, full, continuous reverse camber and reverse sidecut is the ultimate for deep snow, but such skis can be not so fun for traversing and sidestepping, and are not nearly as fun once the pow is tracked out. Something like the EHP would be a really nice compromise for something that skis better once the pow is tracked out, and is much more friendly for traversing and sidestepping. With 0 camber and the rocker, the ski seems to be a nice compromise for more versatility.
Are these skis changed from last year? Im really looking closely to buy these skis but i need more feedback. I really want a side view to see the early rise. Has anyone skied these? Whats the deal?
Here's the scoop: As mentioned in the text above, this years shapes are all based on last season's 186cm. It's a zero camber ski w/ early rise tips and tails. The 'rocker' isn't as exaggerated as say a Pontoon or the ARG, it's more mellow (think ObSethed). Also, it is a bit stiffer than what you'd expect from a flat camber/rocker/whatever kind of ski. I skied it last season at Snowbasin, UT late on a pow day and was really impressed with its stability in chopped up, skied out snow. This ski isn't a lazy surfer like my Pontoons, rather you'd be better off getting forward on these and really driving them. Oh, and if you're into it, mach 10 switch turns feel way safe on this rig. For the record, I'm 5'8" and 135lbs and was feeling sassy on the 186cm. I got to try quite a few of this season's skis last year and the EHP was definitely one of my favorites. Git some!
Possibly the most fun skis that i have ever used. i have the 186s and weigh 190 and they are all the ski that i would ever need. I skis trees way faster with these than any other ski. Super fun in pow and trees.
These are by far some of the most playful skis I have been on in powder. The taper in the tip and tail lets the EHP just rip through deep snow. The skis are pretty much useless when you get out of the powder though. Would recommend to anyone who is looking to add a playful powder ski to their quiver.
Let me preface this review by saying that I when I skied these it was pretty firm and choppy, and didn't really get to test their versatility or floatation. more...
just took these out in 2 ft. of fresh at big sky...AMAZING! they are the best big mountain sticks ive ever had. You can go big bomber long turns in the more...